Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.

Can you digger?

Greetings, your listeners.

This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

Special treat today, a big fan favorite, good friend of mind, friend of the pod, friend

of the virtuous life, and friend of not filthy lucre, but wholesome lucre. David Bonson, of

coincidentally, he works for something, he owns something called the Bonson Group, who would

have predicted that.

He's also written a bunch of books. The most recent one is now just coming out in paperback,

full-time, work, and the meaning of life. David, welcome back to the Remnant.

Well, thank you for having me back, and thank you for not doing the Lou Gehrig's joke on the

Bonson Group deal this time.

I appreciate that. I can't promise. I'm a dad. I can't promise not to repeat jokes, but I try

not to do it the same way every time. All right, so normally we, you forward me an email from

someone asking, when are you going to be back on the remnant? Because one of his favorite things was to listen to me mispronounce or try to pronounce

Eschaton. So we should probably start there and then go to the Lugar stuff. How do you pronounce

Eschaton? Well, it's Eschaton. The C is hard. And that's tricky because you're right.

A lot of times that

CH would be soft it's kind of funny though isn't it because initially the the kind of

flack you took was over post-millennialism versus post-millanelanelanerianism and that is

pre-millarianism too yeah see, I can't even, well,

right, but the post side being the side I come from and post-mill, and maybe that's why we've

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