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Imaginary Worlds

De-Aging Well

Imaginary Worlds

Eric Molinsky

Fiction, Arts, Society & Culture, Science Fiction

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

There’s an old saying that everyone wants to live long, but no one wants to get old. The same can be applied to our favorite sci-fi fantasy franchises. As familiar faces return to Star Wars, Star Trek, and other movies and shows, some franchises have embraced stories about aging and mortality, while others have used digital technology to erase those issues with mixed results. In a roundtable discussion, I talk with Christina Valeo of Eastern Washington University, Shawn Taylor of San Francisco State University and podcaster and pastor JR Forasteros about who is aging well, or de-aging poorly. Spoiler alert, we discuss the Picard series and older Star Trek movies, The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett, Spider-Man: No Way Home, Black Mirror, and Upload. This episode is sponsored by Mint Mobile, Podboard and Squarespace. Our ad partner is Multitude. If you’re interested in advertising on Imaginary Worlds, you can contact them here.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:02.8

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0:32.0

You're listening to Imaginary Worlds, a show about how we create them and why we suspend or disbelieve.

0:37.4

I'm Eric Mollinsky.

0:39.4

If you've seen any of the advertisements for season two of Picard,

0:43.2

you know that the character of Q is back. Q is a godlike being who likes to play games with humanity,

0:50.0

especially Jean-Luc Picard. The posters and billboards for season two,

0:55.6

the actor who plays Q, John Delansey, looks as current age.

1:00.4

And given that Q doesn't age like a human being, a lot of fans are wondering how they can explain that.

1:07.8

It was very clever and spoiler alert.

1:11.7

In the first episode of the season, when Q appears, he is digitally DH.

1:16.9

John Delansey looks just like he did 30 years ago.

1:21.0

He sees Picard and says,

1:28.4

Q snaps his fingers and with a flash, he's 30 years older.

1:31.9

There, now we're even Q. God damn Q.

1:41.2

Aging is an issue that I've been thinking about a lot.

1:46.4

I mean, I think about it every time I look at the mirror, but also I'm thinking about a lot with

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