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This Day in Esoteric Political History

DC, Not A Swamp (1810)

This Day in Esoteric Political History

Jody Avirgan & Radiotopia

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4.6982 Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

It’s April 13th. This day 1810, a new canal is being built in Washington, DC in an attempt to give a little logic to the topography of the nation’s capital.

Jody, Niki, and Kellie discuss why DC was built where it was, and the persistent idea that DC is a “swamp” in both the literal and metaphorical sense.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to this day in esoteric political history from Radiotopia.

0:07.0

My name is Jody Avergan.

0:10.0

Drain the Swamp is of course a phrase that has rung in all of our ears a lot over the last few

0:16.2

years the swampy mix of politicians and lobbyists and media elites that Donald Trump and others

0:21.1

in his circles love to rail against.

0:23.8

That's one swamp, but there is also another swamp,

0:26.9

the actual swamp that Washington, DC is said to have been built on.

0:31.2

And that is where we will start today, April 1810, when President

0:35.8

James Madison participated in a groundbreaking ceremony for the Washington Canal. The

0:41.2

Canal was a major project and it kind of started to give a little bit of logic to the topography

0:46.4

of the nation's capital and that combined with a master plan for the city from architect

0:51.7

Pierre Charles Lafourne. It kind of helped turn

0:54.3

this swamp into the city that we largely know today. So let's talk about DC

1:00.0

was it really built on a swamp? What does the swamp mean metaphorically and physically and topographically and more?

1:06.0

Here to do that as always are Nicole Hammer of Vanderbilt and Kelly Carter Jackson of Wellesley. Hello there.

1:12.0

Hello Jody. Hello there.

1:12.7

Hello Jody.

1:13.8

Hey there.

1:14.8

So I went to high school in the DC area.

1:17.8

I kind of largely call it home.

1:20.5

But that sort of baseline notion like, oh, DC was built. uh... but you know that

1:23.0

baseline notion like oh DC was built on a swamp i mean it was used to explain a lot of things

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