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Good Guy / Bad Guy

DC: I like this Jon Jones! + Khabib taking shots at Topuria?

Good Guy / Bad Guy

ESPN Radio

Sports

4.42.7K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Good Guy / Bad Guy…Step aside Ilia Topuria because Khabib Nurmagomedov believes Arman Tsarukyan is the best Lightweight in the world. But do the guys agree? And, Islam Makhachev says he’d rather have a Superfight against Topuria than Khamzat Chimaev but the guys don’t think that will ever happen. Then, Jon Jones is firing back at DC after being left off his Mount Rushmore of MMA Fighters because of his past with PED’s. DC is clapping back and he’s bringing receipts! And, Jones says he wants to be known as “Forever Champion” and…the guys love it? Then, you do not want to miss what jobs DC & Chael say they’d be doing if they never became Professional Fighters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This John Jones, I like. See, like this I like. I like. I don't like the whiny little

0:05.9

I like this.

0:07.4

I like this.

0:08.4

What's happening guys? Welcome to Good Guy, Bad Guy. I'm Chale. He's Daniel. And by the way, there's a thing out

0:22.0

there called Club Shayshay, great big juiced up football player that you allegedly told

0:27.8

not only could you deal with Brank, you could replace Dana. Do you care to elaborate?

0:33.5

We're going to talk about all that as the show goes on. And I'm telling you, we'll get into it deeply. But, Cheo, first off, before the show started, you about named one of your prior shows. Just remember, I'm the first black co-host you've had. So all you got to do is think that, and you know you're on good guy, bad guy, because the bad guy is the black guy. And that's me, Daniel Corvier. Chel. Daniel, I'm so sorry. When I had my son, who is now 10 years old, Tharo, my neighbor Rick, as a prank, sent out postcards through the whole neighborhood. Like, you can buy an area for 500 bucks. And so he sends out a picture of me and my wife and a black baby. So that's like the funniest prank that I've ever heard of.

1:13.1

So RC's first day at ESPN as I'm making friends with them,

1:16.8

I'm telling him this story about the postcard and the black baby.

1:20.2

And one of the bosses at ESPN who should remain unnamed is doing this to me.

1:26.2

Stop, stop. No, no, because it's the baby and the baby's black. My wife and I'm trying, I just kept going and he's like, he's just like, you're like trying to make you get out, get out now. You're trying to make it funny to RC and it never would get funny to RC. But it's awesome. That's the B. He was cool, man.

1:44.6

R.C. treated me very, I must say he was cool about it. It was a funny story. It's a great story. Chale, you know, uh, well, about all that. Like when I open the show and I say we're going to talk club shay, and you're like, oh, I like that. Well, because there's like a, there's like a, there's like a bit of an alpha move. Are you, are you, are you like on me? There's like a flow to the show, right? Like there's, we've done this for a while now. And it's like, I know at times we kind of go off into the, that, but there's like a flow. And sure, that news was pretty pretty cool I had a great time on that the show

2:20.0

did you hear when I call him a great big juiced up fuck did you hear me say that he's gonna come after you

2:24.8

but uh um the bebe and them had more important things to say in regards to what's happening in mixed martial arts today.

2:37.0

Kabib was talking about the best lightweight in the world. He said that is hands down,

2:42.6

Armand Sarukyang, and went so far as to Seychale. He doesn't think Ilya Teporia has a chance

2:49.2

against Armand Sarakian. Agree or disagree. Well, I got to tell you, I mean, start with I really loved the statement by Khabib. And Khabib even put it like an 80, 20. I mean, he broke it down a little bit. And don't forget, Khabib's not just some fighter anymore, man. That's a coach. That's a coach of a world champion. Like, Kabeb's opinion really matters. I thought it was more of a loyalty play. Kabebeb remains very loyal to grappler. Samba, followed by judo and, of course, wrestling, which he's made look very good. And I just thought he was kind of tipping the hat to Sauru. And I was having a hard time knowing how sincere he was being as much as just putting over

3:25.6

Armin, but I must tell you this, Armand is for sure the hardest matchup for Ilya.

3:31.5

Okay, so there you go. I agree. That's what I agree with you on. I believe it's the hardest

3:37.1

matchup for Ili. I just think it's hard to say Armin is the best lightweight in the world

3:42.4

when Ilya is the champion

3:43.6

and he just came up from 145.

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