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DC & Helwani: UFC 252 Aftermath feat. Ben Askren

Good Guy / Bad Guy

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4.4 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2020

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Former UFC fighter Ben Askren joins Ariel to explain why Daniel Cormier’s five-round loss at UFC 252 shouldn’t affect his legacy. The guys then talk about the fight’s controversial eye pokes, if they believe DC will really call it quits, and Stipe Miocic’s place among the greatest of all time. Plus, a complicated heavyweight picture and Jon Jones’ place in it (31:58), Sean O’Malley’s falter (41:24) and Paige VanZant’s newest opportunity (58:10). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello friends, it's your old pal, Ariel Hawani back with another edition of DC and Hawani, of course

0:07.2

this week DC is off. He's getting some much needed time off. He had a very busy Saturday night

0:12.2

so we've got Funky Ben Ascron filling in and we got a lot to talk about coming off UFC 252.

0:18.8

Very excited about this week's episode. I'm also excited about the NBA playoffs which kick off

0:24.5

on Monday. I can't consume enough NBA content these days whether it's watching the games

0:31.6

or listening to all the great pods here at ESPN and at the top of that list is the great hoop

0:36.8

collective podcast posted by the one and only Brian Winhorse, aka Wendy, one of the best minds in the

0:43.6

NBA world on Monday's episode. He and his guest preview the aforementioned NBA playoffs which as I

0:50.0

said I am very excited for. So give the hoop collective a listen but only do it after you listen

0:56.2

to today's show. All right, reminder as always listen to discretion is advised. Enjoy.

1:20.0

Back in your life on this Monday, August 17, 2020. Hello again everyone. Hope you're doing well.

1:32.3

Welcome back to a brand new edition of DC and Hawani presented by Modelo Modelo Especial.

1:40.5

Grouped for those with a fighting spirit. That is not DC. That has been Ascron. I am Hawani,

1:46.3

area Hawani and as you probably know, Daniel Cormier is taking some time off. I'm fortunate for him at

1:52.9

the knockout his way. This past Saturday night in Las Vegas, he lost for unanimous decision to

1:58.6

steep a miatchuch an absolutely amazing fight back and forth. They went and went the distance. We

2:03.1

have so much to discuss from the fight itself to DC's future to the eye injury to steep a future

2:08.8

to the rest of the cards so much going on coming off of Saturday night in Las Vegas. But first off

2:13.4

and thank you so much for doing this. Welcome back. Yeah, I'm excited to talk about it. I watch

2:17.6

you at C252. Obviously, I was, you know, I think you're a real journalist. So you can't be disappointed

2:23.5

about the outcome. But I will say I was disappointed about the outcome. I was so ashamed for Daniel.

2:28.0

A steep, nice guy like him, but I didn't want to do the win. And you know, he fought hard, didn't go

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