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What you know, Albuyer's Happy Monday. Hope you've had a great, great day. Real quick,

want to give a big thank you to Patricia for the very generous PayPal donation. I really

do appreciate that. Also, music fact of the day. The song Take Me Home by Phil Collins

is actually about somebody who was in a mental institution. And the lyrics were heavily inspired

by the book, One Thulu, Ever The Cooqueous Nest. I thought it was the love song. I was way off,

y'all. All right. So Wagner case, we got to discuss a few things. Number one, as we know, people

can opt out of being video, audio recorded. One or the other, some people have had just audio,

which is helpful, but when nobody allows themselves to be recorded, it's hard. So what I have found

is this it may be on the days where we have people who opt out and you kind of have to go searching

for information. We may end up and do an episode on this trial about every other day. And sometimes

there's just without having screenshots to kind of make make it easy to follow along with

their times. I don't know exactly what they're talking about. It's made it very difficult. I've

I've never seen a case where the judge doesn't allow a drop of blood to be shown on screen. This

is the first time in probably 10 years. I've done this. So anything as far as inside the homes,

we can't see. So it limits really a lot of things. I don't care to see bodies at all.

Crime scene photos do show the brutality of the event and gives context. So

we're going to do Friday and today's testimony. And it was pretty much this dude all day, Friday,

half the day today. And his name is Shane Hanshaw. He's with Ohio's Bureau of Criminal Investigations,

Special Investigations Unit. He did opt-in to being recorded. Thank you, sir. And he was called in

to help with the investigation. He knew there were multiple death scenes. He just didn't know how many.

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