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I don't even like flying. I really just don't want to do it anymore. I did it recently to go to Vegas because it was like I had to have no choice. But like, I really would rather drive everywhere.

Yeah. Road trips are the way, man.

They're super fun.

And really, I mean, if you're not fucking around, you can get across the country in four days.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't want to.

I want to go like four hours a day max and then stay somewhere a day or two and then go four hours a day and stay somewhere for a day or two. Oh, if I get started at a good time, if I'm on the road by seven or eight in the morning,

like, I don't even need to take a break to like two or three in the afternoon.

I can.

I just don't want to go.

Four hours is nice.

Nice drive time.

Stop, mosey around, do things, chill out, sleep in a hammock.

That's my thing.

I ain't going to lie to you.

About an hour and a half outside where I'm at, I'm like,

we stay in, we're going to be doing stuff the whole day here?

It's like, yeah, I ain't driving back home after we fuck all that.

I'm not driving back home.

Folks are like, oh, man, I drove hook because where I'm at Greenville, Raleigh is the nearest, quote, unquote, city.

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