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It is three minutes after ten.

You are listening to James O'Brien on LBC, where there is a lot to digest this morning

and a lot to think about.

But oddly, the, I mention this to you occasionally.

It's a shared problem, isn't it?

But it's mostly my problem.

The questions with which we might, in which we might indulge, the questions that we might try to answer, do not present themselves immediately.

Because, to paraphrase Donald Rums, we're still in the realms of unknown known unknowns and known unknowns, not least because, with regard to the

Southport killings, which we can now say more or less whatever we want about, there is still

room for further enlightenment, further illumination, the sort of detail that would actually

have come out in a trial. There's one element of the story that I can't get past this morning.

And I think we'll begin with that.

And it involves an event that occurred about a week before the murders.

And it involved his father and a taxi driver and the killer and the school from

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