Day 756 - Lazar Berman: New hope for Catholic-Jewish ties
The Times of Israel Daily Briefing
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🗓️ 31 October 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to The Times of Israel's newest podcast series, Friday Focus. Each Friday, join host deputy editor Amanda Borschel-Dan and diplomatic correspondent Lazar Berman for a deep dive into what's behind the news that spins the globe.
This week, amid pomp and circumstance at the Vatican, the Catholic Church marked 60 years to the Nostra Aetate, a document that — among other things — attempts to redefine the two-thousand-year-old relationship between the Catholic Church and the Jewish people.
Berman delves into the Nostra Aetate's long-standing significance, especially as the relationship between Israel and the Vatican has frayed during the two-year war in Gaza launched by Hamas's murderous onslaught on southern Israel.
We learn of the history behind the creation of the landmark document and the push-pull concerns from the Catholic communities in Mideast countries. We hear of the Jewish French historian Jules Isaac, who compiled Catholic anti-Jewish teachings and delivered them to Pope John XXIII, confirming the need to chart out a new path in the Church.
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IMAGE: Pope Leo XIV attends a commemoration of the 60th anniversary of the Vatican 1965 declaration Nostra Aetate (In Our Time) in the Paul VI Hall at the Vatican, October 28, 2025. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Times of Israel's Friday Focus. I'm your host, Deputy Editor Amanda Borschell Dan, here with our diplomatic correspondent, Laser Barman. |
| 0:11.4 | Laser, thank you, as always, for joining me in our Jerusalem office. |
| 0:15.5 | It's great to be here, but not only am I the diplomatic correspondent. |
| 0:19.0 | You have many, many different hats, but you are also, I think we call it Christian Affairs |
| 0:25.1 | correspondent? |
| 0:25.9 | Christian affairs, that is correct. |
| 0:27.6 | Okay, so we are definitely talking about Christian affairs this week when among pomp and |
| 0:32.7 | circumstance at the Vatican, the Catholic Church marked 60 years to the Nostra Atate, which is a document |
| 0:41.2 | that, among other things, attempts to redefine the 2,000-year-old relationship between the Catholic |
| 0:47.9 | Church and the Jewish people. So we are going to dive into its everlasting significance, especially as the Israel-Vatican relationship is currently fraught during this two-year war. |
| 1:02.6 | So all of this and more when we're back. |
| 1:10.5 | So much of what we read about Israel right now is politics and military news. |
| 1:15.9 | Ceasfires, hostages, deals, negotiations. |
| 1:19.9 | But what's harder to capture is the emotional reality in Israel. |
| 1:24.4 | What does it feel like to live through this moment? |
| 1:30.3 | On unpacking Israeli history, host Noam Weissman sits down with Times of Israel new media editor and writer Sarah Tuttle Singer, |
| 1:36.3 | whose unfiltered, deeply human voice shows Israel in all its compassion, frustration, and hope. |
| 1:48.0 | In a conversation that takes a step away from the history and the headlines, |
| 1:52.8 | Sarah reflects on what it feels like to be Israeli right now. |
| 2:11.3 | Listen to unpacking Israeli history, wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Amanda Borssel, Don here with our diplomatic and Christian affairs correspondent, Laser Barman. |
| 2:18.8 | Laser, let's first begin by talking about what is this actual document, the Nostra Atate. |
| 2:25.5 | And, I mean, just start with defining what does it mean, Nostra Atate. |
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