Day 743 - Micah Goodman: End of Gaza war heralds a tectonic shift in Israel
The Times of Israel Daily Briefing
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🗓️ 18 October 2025
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Welcome to What Matters Now, a weekly podcast exploring key issues currently shaping Israel and the Jewish World, with host Amanda Borschel-Dan speaking with author and public intellectual Micah Goodman.
Looking to the French for historical framing, Goodman proposes that Israel is on the brink of a new epoch -- the third Israeli republic.
The author of influential works such as “Catch-67” hypothesizes that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's signing on to US President Donald Trump's 20-point plan signals a tectonic shift in political alignment -- away from extremism.
Today, says Goodman, as most Israelis turn their eyes to a horizon of normalization with Arab and Muslim countries, the fundamental division in Israeli politics is not between the left and the right, but rather the right and the far-right, he says.
As the war winds down and grassroots activists prepare for the October 2026 elections, Goodman proposes that most Israelis are not far apart in their key values, and unity can prevail to bring to fruition a new political era.
And so this week, we ask Micah Goodman, what matters now.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Times of Israel's What Matters now, a weekly podcast diving into what matters in Israel and the Jewish world right now. |
| 0:10.3 | I'm your host, Deputy Editor Amanda Borschal Dan here with thought leader, author, public intellectual, Mika Goodman, who is also my friend and neighbor. |
| 0:20.6 | Hi, Miha. Thanks for letting me be outside |
| 0:22.4 | your house. So listeners, if you hear any kind of noises, it's all Mika's fault. We're hearing |
| 0:26.4 | his birds. Yes, finally, the voices of life. Exactly. And so it was my choice to be outside and |
| 0:32.9 | hear the construction and the birds and the neighbors, pesky neighbors. But I just want to feel as much |
| 0:39.2 | life as possible in this week. Wouldn't, wouldn't you agree, Mika? A hundred percent. If there is a |
| 0:44.5 | vibe in Israel now that something very big has ended and it seems like something new is the beginning. |
| 0:50.3 | Okay, so on that theme, we here in Israel, celebrated yesterday, Simchat Torah. And I think |
| 0:57.0 | abroad Jews are celebrating it today. Is that right, Mecha? Yeah, I think this is Yom Tov Shani I go to |
| 1:02.6 | exactly. So another reason to make Aliyah. But I would have to say that I keep thinking over and over, |
| 1:08.6 | how smart are sages were to have this holiday in which you |
| 1:12.5 | end reading the five books of the Torah and immediately begin. It's the ending in simultaneous, |
| 1:20.1 | instantaneous renewal and rebeginning. And I can't help think about that this week. |
| 1:26.1 | Yeah, this is, you know how when the French organize their own history, they speak about |
| 1:32.1 | the first republic, the second republic, the third republic, right? |
| 1:35.5 | It's like every time they go through critical mass of change, they say, okay, now it's a whole |
| 1:39.3 | different France. |
| 1:40.4 | And that goes to time, we're not the fourth republic anymore from now on, we're the fifth |
| 1:43.3 | republic. |
| 1:44.3 | Now I know there's also a constitutional element that happens in order to move to a new republic, |
| 1:49.0 | but I like, I don't want to, I don't learn a lot from the French. |
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