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🗓️ 16 August 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Welcome to What Matters Now, a weekly podcast exploring key issues currently shaping Israel and the Jewish World, with host Amanda Borschel-Dan speaking with Prof. Dan Turner, the head of a pediatric gastroenterology unit at one of Israel’s most respected hospitals located in Jerusalem and Deputy Dean of the School of Medicine at the Hebrew University.
Turner, alongside his work as a physician, educator and researcher, is also an ardent activist in a variety of fields concerning human rights and dignity, inside and outside of medicine.
Our podcast conversation was spurred by his response to images of Muhammad al-Mutawaq, a severely emaciated 18-month-old living in Gaza, which were published on the front pages of newspapers around the world, prompting a global outcry about the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Following an independent journalist's investigation, it was revealed that al-Mutawaq suffered from severe illnesses, including neurological and muscle disorders.
For Turner, al-Mutawaq's underlying medical conditions don't excuse his appearance -- quite the contrary. The malnourished child is emblematic of Israel's inhumane treatment of all Palestinians, from security prisoners handcuffed in hospital beds to babies who require special medical care in Gazan tent cities, he says.
In a wide-ranging interview, Turner explains how he was "awoken" to his duty to advocate for Palestinians' basic medical care and treatment with dignity.
He shares the blowback he has received -- and why he now sparks conversations about the ongoing war in Gaza by "looking like a caveman."
And so this week, we ask Prof. Dan Turner, what matters now.
What Matters Now podcasts are available for download on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. This episode was produced by the Pod-Waves.
IMAGE: The transfer of Palestinian men arrested during a military raid on Jenin, January 22, 2025. (GIL COHEN-MAGEN / AFP)
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the Times of Israel's What Matters now, a weekly podcast journaling into one issue affecting Israel and the Jewish world right now. |
0:11.5 | I'm your host, Amanda Borschal, Dan, here with Professor Don Turner. |
0:16.0 | Dan, thank you so much for letting me into your beautiful home. |
0:18.7 | Sure. |
0:19.2 | We are here. |
0:20.2 | Dan is the vice dean of the medical school at the Hadassah and Kerem Medical School. |
0:26.1 | And Dan is also a pediatric gastroenterologist at a major hospital here in Jerusalem. |
0:32.3 | And we're going to talk about many things, medicine, activism, and also specifically about the really horrific pictures |
0:39.4 | that have come out of Gaza, including children, babies who have looked incredibly emaciated |
0:45.6 | on the verge of starvation, and what Don has to say about it, including rebutting what the IDF |
0:52.6 | has to say about it. So all of this and more when we're back. |
1:02.4 | To me, it seems like they're more with dead shoes than they are with living shoes. |
1:06.4 | But what about the living choose? |
1:08.5 | What about people like me? |
1:10.3 | What about people that feel like they cannot even walk safely in their own streets? |
1:14.8 | Hi, I'm Manya Marcus, host of what came after. Recently, nearly 50 French Jewish summer campers were removed from their flight in Spain, allegedly only for singing in Hebrew. It's undeniable. |
1:29.8 | Antisemitism in Western Europe is surging. |
1:34.1 | So what I always say is that not only we're part of that European continent, |
1:36.6 | but we're the future and we should be the future. |
1:41.6 | In our latest episode, I speak with Juan Caldez of the European Jewish Association. |
1:45.6 | Juan talks about his journey from a devout Catholic childhood in Spain to life as an observant Jew in Brussels, and what it means for him, personally and professionally, |
1:51.4 | to fight for the future of the Jewish community in Europe. Listen to what came after on Spotify, |
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