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The Times of Israel Daily Briefing

Day 638 - Haviv Rettig Gur on when Israeli extremists go to war - against Israel

The Times of Israel Daily Briefing

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🗓️ 5 July 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to What Matters Now, a weekly podcast exploring key issues currently shaping Israel and the Jewish World, with host Amanda Borschel-Dan speaking with senior analyst Haviv Rettig Gur.

Dozens of Jewish extremists set fire to a security installation and rioted outside a West Bank base overnight Sunday-Monday, days after an officer in the Israel Defense Forces was assaulted by settlers, who threw rocks and attempted to harm other IDF soldiers.

If there’s one institution that a majority of Israelis still get behind, it’s the IDF. So this attack, to many, was a wake-up call to the bubbling issue of settler extremists.

In this week's What Matters Now, Rettig Gur describes the origins of the settler movement and how there were several visions that at times competed with each other -- and overlapped.

He explains how the extremists who are repeatedly attacking neighboring Palestinian villages -- and now IDF soldiers -- are disenfranchised and largely shunned by the diverse settler communities.

And we learn how politicians, some of whom serve as role models for these "hilltop youth" -- are finally also waking up to the problem. But while the leaders are changing their tunes, the youth are no longer listening.

And so this week, we ask Haviv Rettig Gur, what matters now.

What Matters Now podcasts are available for download on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. This episode was produced by the Pod-Waves and video edited by Thomas Girsch. 

IMAGE: Illustrative: Young Jewish protesters throw rocks as Israeli police forces arrive at the illegal outpost of Amona, on February 1, 2017, on the morning of the settlement's evacuation. (Hadas Parush/Flash90)

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Times of Israel's What Matters Now.

0:04.9

I'm your host, Amanda Borchelle Dan, here with our senior analyst Kaviv Rettigur.

0:10.1

Kaviv, thank you as ever for joining me.

0:12.8

And you solved the Israel-Iran war.

0:15.3

Thank you for ending it for us.

0:17.1

Look, it wasn't easy.

0:18.6

You know, we all did our part.

0:19.9

And I want to thank my team in the U.S., in Israel, obviously the Mossad.

0:24.6

But what are you talking about?

0:26.6

Oh, right, that war that ended a couple days ago, just before the current crisis that we're going to discuss right now, the settler violence.

0:33.6

Oh, I mean, Erdogan has already stepped into the breach of Iran's collapse and

0:38.3

said, I'm going to lead the Muslim world now. And he's a Muslim brother who thinks Israel should

0:42.7

be destroyed. No, there's no rest. There's no rest. There's no rest for the wicked now.

0:48.0

No, but now we can refocus on Gaza. We can refocus on a lot of the insanity and I think just poor control of the territory

0:57.4

and what's happening there in the West Bank, and we can focus on a lot of the things that need

1:00.5

to be fixed. Yeah.

1:02.6

So for this episode, let's focus a bit on domestic Israeli society. And I'm talking about the

1:09.7

settler extremists in the West Bank who have been

1:12.1

attacking our IDF soldiers.

1:14.8

And as you and I have discussed several times on the podcast, the IDF is one of the only institutions

1:20.5

that most Israelis still trust and get behind.

1:24.8

So this attack on our IDF soldiers is a huge attack on Israeli society.

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