Day 565 - Why pope's final Gaza statements won't heal rift with Israel

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🗓️ 23 April 2025

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Welcome to The Times of Israel's Daily Briefing, your 20-minute audio update on what's happening in Israel, the Middle East and the Jewish world.

Diplomatic reporter Lazar Berman joins host Amanda Borschel-Dan for today's episode.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke via phone on Tuesday with US President Donald Trump. Following the conversation, the American leader said that the pair “are on the same side of every issue.” So what were the issues discussed?

Hamas is expected to soon propose a new ceasefire framework for Gaza as its representatives arrive in Cairo. Hamas is reportedly pushing for a five-year truce and accepting the previous Egyptian idea of a technocratic council to rule the Strip. What else may be involved?

Pope Francis died on Monday, a day after making a public appearance at Saint Peter’s Square on Easter Sunday. In his final message, he included a segment about the war in Gaza, saying, “I express my closeness to the sufferings of Christians in Palestine and Israel, and to all the Israeli people and the Palestinian people. ... I appeal to the warring parties: call a ceasefire, release the hostages and come to the aid of a starving people that aspires to a future of peace!” Berman weighs in on whether this may help ease the uncomfortable relationship Israel has had with the pope since the war in Gaza was launched by the Hamas-led massacre on October 7.

Among the candidates to replace Pope Francis at the upcoming conclave, one name familiar to many Israeli officials stands out — Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa, the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem.
The Italian priest has lived in Israel for over three decades, and is a fluent Hebrew speaker. Berman explains how this dark horse candidate may have a chance.

After presenting his letter of credence to President Isaac Herzog on Monday, Washington’s new ambassador Mike Huckabee accused Iran of seeking to destroy Israel and the United States. We hear why this may be music to official Israel's ears.

Check out The Times of Israel's ongoing live blog for more updates.

For further reading:

Trump after call with Netanyahu: ‘We’re on the same side of every issue’

Report: Hamas to propose new ceasefire framework including release of hostages in one phase, five-year truce

Hamas delegation heads for Cairo as Egypt takes mediation lead in hostage talks

Pope Francis cared deeply about Holy Land, Jews, but left ‘sour taste’ after Oct. 7

Latin patriarch of Jerusalem among candidates to replace Pope Francis

Presenting credentials to Herzog, Huckabee says Iran seeks to destroy Israel, then US

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IMAGE: Pope Francis stands at Israel's West Bank security barrier on his way to a mass in Manger Square in Bethlehem, May 25, 2014. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Times of Israel's daily briefing. Today is Wednesday, April 23rd, Day 565 of the war.
0:11.1	I'm Amanda Borchelle, Don, here with our diplomatic reporter, Laser Bearman, joining us from our
0:15.7	Jerusalem office. Hi, Laser. Thanks for joining me today. Hi, Amanda. Good morning. Good to be here.
0:21.1	Always so great to have you, and you've been away for a bit.
0:23.8	So, Laser will update us on the status of the hostage-release negotiations,
0:28.4	and we'll hear about a phone call between U.S. President Donald Trump
0:32.1	and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu last night.
0:35.2	We'll also learn about Washington's new ambassador to Israel and what
0:39.6	he said when he was presenting his credentials and will spend time in the second half of the program
0:45.5	to discuss the legacy of Pope Francis vis-à-vis Israel and the Jews. All this and more when we're back.
1:01.8	This month on Wandering Jews with Michal and Noam,
1:06.9	award-winning author Dara Horn joins hosts Mikhail Bitton and Noam Weisman to explore one of the most provocative questions in Jewish life today. Has decades of Holocaust
1:13.2	education truly helped fight anti-Semitism? Or has it backfired? Together, they unpack the
1:20.3	unintended consequences of how the Holocaust has been taught, how a story about Jews and
1:25.9	anti-Semitism gradually became a universal tale of tolerance,
1:30.1	often leaving the specifically Jewish dimension behind.
1:33.8	They discuss the rise in anti-Semitism, the limits of current approaches to Holocaust education,
1:39.5	and what a different kind of education might look like.
1:43.0	If you're ready for a challenging, deeply thoughtful conversation about memory, meaning,
1:48.0	and Jewish identity today, don't miss this episode.
1:53.1	Listen to Wondering Jews with Mikhail and Noam, wherever you get your podcasts.
2:04.3	Hi, wherever you get your podcasts. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke via phone yesterday with U.S. President Donald Trump,
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