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The Times of Israel Daily Briefing

Day 547 - Author Dara Horn: Why Jews are the eternal scapegoat

The Times of Israel Daily Briefing

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🗓️ 5 April 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to The Times of Israel's Daily Briefing, your 20-minute audio update on what's happening in Israel, the Middle East and the Jewish world.

Today we bring you an episode of What Matters Now, a weekly podcast exploring key issues currently shaping Israel and the Jewish World, with host deputy editor Amanda Borschel-Dan, speaking with author and scholar Dara Horn.

Horn is the author of novels and non-fiction, including “People Love Dead Jews,” “Eternal Life,” “A Guide for the Perplexed,” and now her first book for young readers, “One Little Goat.”

A graphic novel, "One Little Goat," was dreamed up by a young Horn and written decades later alongside the uniquely grungy illustrations of Theo Ellsworth.

The program's first half delves into the book's trippy storyline and how she arrived at it. As Horn remarks on her website, "'One Little Goat' is a quirky, dryly funny, Passover-themed graphic novel, featuring a lost matzah, a never-ending seder, and a time-traveling talking goat."

In the second half of the program, we hear some about the ideas Horn proposed in her bestselling work, "People Love Dead Jews," and she speaks about her new education initiative, Mosaic Persuasion, which is bent on teaching American schoolchildren about real, living Jews, and Jewish culture.

We hear about how the Hamas massacre of some 1,200 in southern Israel on October 7, 2023, has -- and has not -- shifted American discourse. And Horn points out the Jews' driving counter-culture DNA that has been passed down from generation to generation, much like the rituals of the Passover seder.

And so, this week, we ask author Dara Horn, what matters now?

Please see today's ongoing liveblog for more updates.

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0:00.0

Welcome to What Matters Now, the Times of Israel's weekly podcast drilling into one issue affecting Israel and the Jewish world right now.

0:09.7

I'm your host, Deputy Editor Amanda Borscheldan, here with author and scholar Dara Horan.

0:14.9

Dara, thank you so much for joining me today.

0:16.8

Thank you so much for having me.

0:18.2

Where am I finding you today?

0:19.6

In New Jersey.

0:20.5

New Jersey. Definitely heard of that. And am I finding you today? In New Jersey. New Jersey.

0:21.3

Definitely heard of that.

0:22.4

And we are here to talk about your newest book, which is One Little Goat.

0:27.1

But most people have heard of your earlier books, including the nonfiction work,

0:32.7

People Love Dead Jews, and several novels, including Eternal Life, a Guide for the Perplexed, and many others.

0:41.3

I have read actually a surprising number of your corpus, but not one of the books we're

0:46.9

going to discuss in the second half of the program, People Love Dead Jews.

0:51.3

So one little goat is Dary's first work for young readers, which is really exciting.

0:58.0

I read it all in one sitting because I know my ABCs last night, and we were going to talk about

1:03.8

all things goat and scapegoat after this.

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