Day 427 - As Pope floats 'genocide,' a dive into Catholic-Jewish ties

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🗓️ 6 December 2024

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Welcome to The Times of Israel's Daily Briefing, your 20-minute audio update on what's happening in Israel, the Middle East and the Jewish world.

Diplomatic reporter Lazar Berman joins host Amanda Borschel-Dan for today's episode, recorded in our Jerusalem offices. We’re doing something different today and Berman and Borschel-Dan have an informal conversation about a mid-November report that Pope Francis has called for an investigation to determine if Israel’s attacks in Gaza constitute genocide.

These remarks were included in a new book celebrating the pontiff’s jubilee year and they marked the first time that Francis has openly urged for an investigation of genocide allegations over Israel’s actions in the Gaza Strip.

The revolution in ties between the Catholic Church and Jews began with a brief document -- Nostra Aetate -- issued on October 28, 1965, by more than 1700 Catholic bishops gathered in Rome for the Second Vatican Council. We speak about what this document states and what it represents.

We learn about the relationship between the Catholic Church and Israel -- and the Jewish people writ large -- and how it has evolved from accusations of Jews as Christ-killers to a relatively Golden Age. Lately, however, observers wonder if remarks made by Pope Francis and others could mark a turning point.

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Discussed articles include:

Pope calls for probe into whether Israel is committing ‘genocide’ in Gaza

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IMAGE: Pope Francis waves as he arrives for his weekly general audience in St. Peter's Square at The Vatican, December 4, 2024. (AP Photo/Alessandra Tarantino)

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Times of Israel's daily briefing. Today is Friday, December 6th, day 427 of the war.
0:14.0	Amanda Borchelle Dan here in our Jerusalem offices with diplomatic reporter Laser Barman.
0:18.6	Hi, Laser. Thanks for joining me. Hi, how are you?
0:21.2	I'm okay.
0:22.1	And we're going to do something different today.
0:24.3	Laser and I are going to have an informal conversation about a news item that really stuck with us.
0:30.5	And we've chatted about it a bunch off mic for the past couple of weeks.
0:34.9	I'm talking about a mid-November report that Pope Francis has called for an
0:40.3	investigation to determine if Israel's attacks in Gaza constitute genocide. So these remarks were seen in
0:48.4	excerpts from a new book, and they marked the first time that Francis has openly urged for an investigation of genocide
0:56.0	over Israel's actions in the Gaza Strip.
0:59.4	So we're going to talk a little bit about this genocide allegation, potential genocide
1:05.6	allegation, the relationship between the Catholic Church and Israel,
1:15.7	and the relationship between the Catholic Church and Israel, and the relationship between the Catholic Church and Jewish people writ large.
1:20.0	So how it's evolved from accusations of Jews as Christ killers to a relatively golden age, one could arguably say right now.
1:24.8	All this and more after the break.
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