Dawn of Discernment Clips: What If Germs Are Not Our Enemy?
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🗓️ 16 January 2026
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Dawn of Discernment is hosted by Dawn Lester. Dawn is a researcher and writer. She is co-author of What Really Makes You Ill (2019) and The Nature of Reality (2010).
The decade-long research and writing project that led to What Really Makes You Ill, involved taking a much deeper look into a whole variety of topics, not just health, and led to the inevitable discovery that so much of what we’re told is wrong. This in turn enabled Dawn to re-examine some of the more difficult experiences of her own life, including her cancer diagnosis and subsequent treatment in the mid-1990s.
Through her understanding of the nature of reality, she has been able to gain valuable insights and view those painful past experiences from a different perspective, one that shows us that we are not victims of our past and that the future is not fixed. Instead, our past informs us about life, who we are, and what we can do right NOW to bring about the future we want.
Inspired by the famous saying to ‘Be the change you wish to see in the world’, Dawn shares her insights and understanding to help people identify, process, and resolve the challenges they face, and create the life they wish to experience.
Dawn of Discernment Podcast is creating clarity through inspiring conversations with remarkable people on a myriad of topics, guiding us to deeper discernment of what life is really about.
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| 0:00.0 | This is a clip from Dawn of Discernment. |
| 0:04.7 | You can access the entire episode now on our website and all podcast platforms. |
| 0:10.9 | It doesn't necessarily fit how the body actually functions, which we will get into. |
| 0:19.3 | Because it's just so key to understanding the whole terrain paradigm. We're calling it a |
| 0:29.2 | paradigm because it is not a theory. A lot of people say, oh, you know, germ theory versus terrain |
| 0:34.4 | theory. Well, terrain is not a theory. It is a paradigm. |
| 0:39.3 | No. And that's, it seems to be the idea that, oh, well, it's something new. Well, it's not something new. |
| 0:46.3 | It's actually, as you say, it's looking at a lot of traditional ideas and, and I think a lot of Eastern traditions, Eastern cultures, |
| 0:57.8 | have no concept of germs. So let's dive in a little bit into germs. I have to put, |
| 1:07.9 | you know, inverted commas around germs, you know, the... |
| 1:11.6 | She's air quote, yes, yes. |
| 1:15.2 | I'll have to put air quote germs, yes, obviously, for people on the audio. |
| 1:21.1 | So it seems to have been floating around for a while, |
| 1:26.2 | but why do you think the idea of germs actually |
| 1:30.3 | took hold? I mean, we know about Pastor and Robert Koch, but what is your view on why that |
| 1:37.3 | idea took hold? |
| 1:40.3 | You know, it's, someone asked me that question once before, and it actually, it culminated into me writing a chapter in my next book. |
| 1:49.8 | So I'll give you the inside of what I thought. It's the certainty. |
| 1:55.2 | Humans need certainty. They need an absolute, right? How many, I mean, if we were to go into every |
| 2:04.1 | genre of science, meteorology, astrology, geology, geology, everything is presented as if it's an |
| 2:14.6 | absolute, that we absolutely know that it's going to rain tomorrow, that we |
| 2:19.4 | absolutely know that with the radiocarbon dating or the isotopic dating of a rock, |
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