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You spent many years as a monk and then you came out of that through having learnt that that wasn't the right direction for you.

But you said you then chose to study and practice.

I mean, so massage, osteopathy and counselling, which is, you know, I mean, instead of just

one, you went for three of them.

So do you want to, I suppose really are three parts.

I mean, there's like, what made you choose those particular disciplines?

What did you learn from them?

You know, that added to what you'd learned as a monk.

And then what made you kind of move out of them.

So I suppose, you know, starting with, you know,

why did you choose those particular films to go into? Okay. Well, that's interesting. I'm going to,

I will actually, as per usual, I'll turn it on its head a little bit because I actually,

because I actually had learned osteopathy from

a family relative who is working in the field when I was a teenager.

And so I'd learned it because in those days, it was long time ago now, but in those days,

I don't think there was even a course in Australia for osteopathy.

And most of it was learnt through like an apprenticeship type situation.

So I studied, I just learned osteopathy.

It's not a lot in it. It's pretty, it's pretty straightforward

mechanical process. Osteopathy is just, you know, the ability to work with the skeletal

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