Dawkins vs. Peterson: There Be Dragons
Decoding the Gurus
Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne
4.2 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 24 November 2024
⏱️ 98 minutes
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Summary
In this special episode, we return to the forboding Dragon's Den of the Peterson-verse and enjoy a rather punchy conversation between Jordan Peterson and Richard Dawkins, facilitated by Alex O'Connor.
As always, the discussion is dense with abstract symbolic interpretations, evasive answers to direct questions about biblical events, and highly speculative claims. So Matt and Chris don their best decoding armour, steel their resolve, and prepare to face down endless waves of indulgent analogies and the constant conflation of mythological and scientific truths.
Important insights from Matt on American public toilets, shower technology, and stories of Chris' previous life as a coal-shovelling street urchin are also included.
Links
- Dawkins vs Peterson: Memes & Archetypes | Alex O’Connor Moderates | EP 491
- The Times: We Who Wrestle with God by Jordan Peterson review — rambling, hectoring and mad
- The Guardian: We Who Wrestle With God by Jordan Peterson review – a culture warrior out of his depth
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Hello and welcome to Decoding the Gurus. |
| 0:30.3 | The podcast where an anthropologist and the psychologist looked at the biggest online egypt |
| 0:36.8 | and try to work out what the hell they're talking about. |
| 0:42.6 | That's my adjusted intro, Matt, because this is a special episode. |
| 0:46.2 | It's not a where it will. |
| 0:47.5 | It is a kind of regular decoding. |
| 0:49.0 | You don't know what's going on, but it's like a little impromptu episode. |
| 0:53.5 | It's a mini decoding, Matt, a mini decoding. |
| 0:56.1 | Is it? Wait, no, no, no, you told me this was a Gorometer episode. No, no, no, no. I told you |
| 1:03.6 | many things. I told you many things, but one of the things that I also said was before we do the |
| 1:09.5 | garrometer, we have something else. |
| 1:11.3 | This is something else. |
| 1:12.5 | You know what it is, but I'll remind you about it momentarily. |
| 1:17.3 | But before that, before I let you in on the secret that all the listeners know because |
| 1:22.6 | they've seen the title, you're still in America, Matt. |
| 1:25.5 | You're still traveling around. |
| 1:30.1 | You're the modern day Lawrence of Arabia. Was he, was he someone that traveled around in foreign land? He did travel. |
| 1:36.0 | Okay, okay. All right. I'm just like, is he a terrible figure from history or whatever? |
| 1:41.9 | You're the, you're modern day Kublai Khan, |
| 1:45.3 | rampaging food, |
| 1:47.6 | the Chinese countryside. |
| 1:49.4 | No, so you're in America. |
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