Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show.

You know, they say it's a thin line between love and hate,

but we're working every day to thicken that line,

or at least make it a double, even triple line.

Now here's your line-j jumping host, Eric Mataxis.

Folks, I'm talking to David Wood, continuing to talk with David Wood about his life story.

It's moving.

It's fascinating.

In some ways, in retrospect, it's extremely amusing.

Maybe because we know it turned out pretty okay.

David, you know, you're a Christian today.

You debate people.

You've always been really smart.

But to go back to where we were a moment ago in this conversation, I mean, you knew you were smart.

And so here you are in this bizarre situation. You meet this Christian and it leads to you being put in a cell with cameras because they think you're trying

to kill yourself, which in a weird way, what you're doing, I mean, not eating for weeks, it might have done that. And didn't at some point

they tried to force feed you? No, they were warning me that they were going to force feed me.

They said, they explained it. They said your body's going to use up all your fat, which by this time,

it was almost gone.

So I was 235 pounds or so when I got locked up. I got down to around 150. But once I started

hitting, you know, 165 and 160 and 158, you know, just dropping every day, the doctor said,

you know, at first your body is going to use up all the fat, and then it's

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