David Volodzko: Fired For a Tweet
Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
Josh Szeps
4.5 • 905 Ratings
🗓️ 15 August 2023
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
“If you’re explaining, you’re losing,” said Ronald Reagan, who never had to explain himself to a baying Twitter mob. Respected journalist David Volodzko, an expert on political extremism, got the newspaper job of his dreams… and lost it all within days. If you’ve ever wondered whether cancel culture exists, don’t miss his stunning tale.
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| 0:00.0 | Gay humans, well, in the safe space of dangerous ideas. Here's a dangerous idea for you. |
| 0:07.7 | How about we not fire people and ruin their lives and ruin the lives of their young families |
| 0:14.5 | for the crime of being silly enough to try to have a nuanced conversation on Twitter? |
| 0:20.6 | How's that? |
| 0:21.5 | How's that for a crazy idea? |
| 0:27.3 | Here's an equally crazy idea. |
| 0:29.2 | How about we not try to debate whether or not Hitler was worse than Lenin or Lenin was |
| 0:34.8 | worse than Hitler on a social media platform designed to amplify |
| 0:39.6 | irrationality to reinforce people's pre-existing beliefs and to demonize other people's positions. |
| 0:48.2 | Today's guest did that and was fine for it. Both things are wrong. I hazard a guess in my ethical metric that the firing was worse than the foolish engagement |
| 1:02.0 | on Twitter. |
| 1:03.0 | But you can judge that for yourself after hearing his side of the story. |
| 1:07.0 | He's a journalist. |
| 1:09.0 | I received a message from him just on Twitter, hoping that he might be able to chat to me. |
| 1:14.6 | And I didn't know the guy. |
| 1:16.6 | Turns out I had once interviewed him many, many, many years ago on HuffPost Live about logging in Asia. |
| 1:24.6 | He's been a bit of an expert on Asia. He's lived in Asia. He lived for |
| 1:29.1 | four years in Japan. He lived for six years in South Korea. He lived for three years in China. |
| 1:34.7 | He spent a year traveling around Southeast Asia. He spent two years in Nepal and India. He was |
| 1:40.1 | apparently homeless in Mumbai. I wish I'd asked him about that. That sounds interesting. |
| 1:44.0 | Of all the places, you could choose to be poor. Why choose the place? was apparently homeless in Mumbai. I wish I'd asked him about that. That sounds interesting. |
| 1:50.8 | Of all the places, you could choose to be poor. Why choose the place with the largest slum in the world and one of the poorest metropolises in the world? But maybe you don't have a choice in the |
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