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The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

David Varadi - “Managing Risk is Absolutely Critical" | #64

The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

The Idea Farm

Management, Business, Investing

4.8978 Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2017

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 64, we welcome David Varadi from Blue Sky Asset Management. David tells us a bit about himself before he and Meb jump into investing. Meb starts by referencing a quote from Blue Sky’s website: “Unlike endowments, investors do not have an infinite time horizon. For this reason, we believe that a traditional strategic asset allocation approach based on modern portfolio theory is suboptimal. It makes more sense to adapt to changes in the economic environment. We favor a dynamic approach to asset allocation using market information to guide our investment decisions. Most importantly, we believe that a systematic, quantitative approach is necessary to avoid emotions and biases in decision-making.” Meb’s a fan of all the ideas in that quote, so he asks David to expound and discuss his general market framework. David tells us how it’s easy to be a buy-and-hold investor when market is going up; much harder so when the market is falling – especially when nearing retirement. Significant drawdowns can be devastating. So David tells us that “managing risk is absolutely critical.” Investors need to be able to adjust their strategies to handle a wide variety of market scenarios – bear markets, varying interest rate scenarios, and inflation. And “if you have a dynamic asset allocation, you have the ability to be more in tune with the market regime that is currently going on.” Meb asks David to dig deeper – what are the rules and frameworks in place that make his models dynamic? For David, much goes back to fundamentals, trend, momentum, and volatility. David starts with a strategic allocation that reflects longer-term assumptions. But what’s interesting is how David uses volatility in concert with trend/momentum, helping him know when to be in the market versus cash. Most people think time-series momentum is a binary decision, but David brings probabilities into the discussion. Meb then asks about the challenges a retail investor faces when trying to implement the strategies David has been discussing. A big challenge is tracking error. The more dynamic you are (moving away from buy-and-hold indexing), the more potential tracking error. Another issue is how often you trade. David tells us that the investor has to ask himself what is most important – does the investor want to reduce the drawdown in a 2008 scenario, and if so, is he willing to take the tracking error associated with that? Meb echoes this tradeoff between buy-and-hold versus active. It’s very hard to look “different” than the market and/or your neighbors when you’re underperforming. Next, Meb brings up another Blue Sky whitepaper, this one about retirees and risk. David hits the high points, discussing the challenges of volatility in retirement. There’s plenty more in this episode, including the new areas David is researching… David’s most memorable trade (one involves put options, the other Bitcoin)… And David’s one piece of investing advice to listeners, involving three mental “buckets” for your asset allocation. What are they? Find out in Episode 64. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Mebb Favor Show, where the focus is on helping you grow and preserve your wealth.

0:12.0

Join us as we discuss the craft of investing. helping you grow and preserve your wealth.

0:12.6

Join us as we discuss the craft of investing

0:15.5

and uncover new and profitable ideas,

0:18.2

all to help you grow wealthier and wiser.

0:20.7

Better investing starts here.

0:23.0

Mepp Faber is the co-founder and chief investment officer, Cambrido Investment Management.

0:31.0

Due to industry regulations, he will not discuss any of Cambria's funds on this podcast.

0:36.8

All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not reflect

0:41.3

the opinion of Cambria Investment Management or its affiliates.

0:44.8

For more information, visit Cambria Investments.com.

0:49.1

Hey podcast listeners, happy summertime episode today we have a special

0:56.9

guest but before we get to our guest I wanted to tell you all a reminder we

1:01.6

just had a new book drop this week it's called the best

1:04.7

investment writing volume one so I can't claim that I wrote it because I was just the

1:10.0

editor and compiler but it contains 32 hand selected articles by yours truly.

1:16.6

Some of the best pieces from some of the most respected money managers, investment researchers

1:21.9

in the world that were written in 2016.

1:25.1

Some highlights include strategies that produce some of the highest historical returns,

1:30.1

five due diligence questions to ask before investing,

1:33.5

why we often make poor complex investing decisions

1:37.6

and the easiest and most powerful method

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