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In the real world, violence is something that you have to master.

Today, I have one of the people that has mastered violence both in and outside of the ring at the highest possible level.

Mr. Boss Routon today on the David Rutherford show.

Yeah. Mr. Boss Routon today on the David Rutherford show. Boss, it's a wonderful privilege and a pleasure to welcome you on the David Rutherford

show, sir.

You are a living legend and just so honored that you would come on with me today. Yeah, yeah. Although, you know, I think that master the virus outside, you know, maybe a street fighting. But once I start meeting, you know, I start training the SEAL teams. You know, I always thought I was a tough guy. And then I meet these guys and I go, ah, maybe not so tough.

So, no, no, that goes to those guys.

Trust me.

Let's just start with that then because, you know, one of the coolest things that I remember from being in the teams is we had all this great exposure to these incredible fighters from that era. I went in in the mid-90s,

late 90s, you know, from Tony Blower. We had Ken Shamrock that would work with us. We had all

kinds of just incredible pride fighters and MMA fighters that would come and work with us.

How long have you been working with military units and what different types of training regiments

would you put them through?

Let me see.

I think I started around 2004 or five.

I think maybe, no, no, no, after my fight.

So 2006, that's when I started working with the teams.

And I did that for quite some time.

Like we did eight years, I would go a week there, or they would come to me,

and then, you know, if we did it once or twice here, it was, I would go a week there, or they would come to me, and then,

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