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The LRB Podcast

David Runciman: Thatcher in Her Bubble

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4581 Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2015

⏱️ 19 minutes

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David Runciman on Margaret Thatcher. Read David Runciman in the LRB: https://lrb.me/runcimanpod Sign up to the LRB newsletter: https://lrb.me/acast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to a London Review of Books podcast.

0:11.9

The modern Conservative Party is never happier than when Labour has a unilateral disarmour as its leader.

0:19.4

In 1986, Margaret Thatcher arrived at her party's annual conference in

0:24.0

Bournemouth with a spring in her step, despite having endured months of bruising political infighting

0:29.3

in the aftermath of the Westland affair. She promptly fell over a manhole cover and sprained her ankle,

0:35.8

but even this did little to dampen her spirits.

0:40.8

The reason for her good mood was that over the previous two weeks, both the Liberal and Labour Party

0:46.4

conferences had voted in favour of unilateral nuclear disarmament. In the case of the Liberals,

0:52.9

this merely confirmed Thatcher's view that they were not to be taken seriously,

0:56.6

particularly as the vote set the members at odds with the leadership of the alliance

0:59.9

and represented a direct rebuke of David Owen's much more hawkish SDP.

1:05.6

Labor was different.

1:07.7

The Labour Party will never die was one of Thatcher's mantras.

1:12.4

What Labour did mattered because it was the only alternative party of government.

1:17.5

And in this case, the party members were in tune with the leadership.

1:21.4

Neil Kinnock, who had spent the past few years painstakingly trying to distance himself

1:25.8

from the militant elements of his movement,

1:28.1

was nonetheless unwilling or unable to give up his personal commitment to unilateralism.

1:33.9

He later said that even if he had wanted to, his wife, Glenys, wouldn't have allowed it.

1:38.8

The party might have survived, but his marriage wouldn't have.

1:43.7

Thatcher pounced.

1:45.9

She used her conference speech to excoriate Kinnock for his pusillanimity.

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