Spiegel and Holmes show flashback, flashback, flashback.

What do you think about Speeg's not showing up today?

Matt, what do you think about?

It's absolute garbage.

Unacceptable, right? You show, when you post, you know what I mean? Like, it doesn't matter. I don't, if I get, if I have the sniffles, I don't get a day off. That's exactly right. You got to go, but we had to get that in.

This is David Ross throwing shade at me at the Cubs convention a few years back?

He's right. You post. You post. Rossi's posting on their podcast on Lovable Reunion. It's a crazy good listen. So good. Man. It's so good. I should pick another to hang out through.

I listen to all of the Madden. I listen to all of the Schwabber. And I'm really glad I did. The coaches are on this one now this week. It's Eric Hinsky and John Maley. Lester and Lacky's fun, too. Lester and Lacky, very fun. You learn a lot about leadership and how to build culture. Have a beer fridge in a locker. that's a great great start.

We played that on the show.

Yeah, that was good.

But leadership and how to build culture. Have a beer fridge in a locker. That's a great way to start. We played that on the show. Yeah, that was good. But leadership and how to build culture. I remember when Lester and Ross showed up together, they just took over in that room and Madden let him. Madden totally led him, and he knew that he had a good tandem there to do it with. Yeah, Ross is a fascinating dude. I love the story about Lester and how Ross he became a cub. It was like after midnight, he's like, who's your backup catcher? You should sign David Ross. And they negotiated the contract on the phone, like right there. From Joe's on weed, right? Yeah, it was like Bub City. He's like, what do you need? He's like, yeah, I'll come up.

He's like, give me two for six.

And so he's like, give me two for six. No, that's going to happen. He was drinking the beer and going two for five. Two for five. And Ross had to say yes. Yeah, I'll do that. Good choice. Really good choice. very very good choice when you see what has happened.

I saw David doing color on the rays in the Red Sox.

Was yesterday afternoon?

Might have been Wednesday afternoon on ESPN, him and Carl Ravish.

So David's going to be back doing some games on ESPN and obviously all over the, all

over his podcast.

Our buddy Rob Bradford got David to sit down for some baseball isn't

boring chatter rob's a good man knows his stuff tremendous connections around the game and he spoke

with david on the pod about possibly rooting against the cubs and you know i was really

following the cubs probably super hard in 24, just because it's like, that's my team, how are they going to do without me? That must be weird. I've been thinking a lot about that for obvious reasons now, like, what that dynamic is like. Oh, it's the worst. So it's like, well, you're rooting for the players. But you're rooting against the players. But you're rooting yesterday. But you know, they lose.

...