David Rosen: Israel doesn't adequately understand Christian relations
The Times of Israel Daily Briefing
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🗓️ 24 April 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to The Times of Israel's Lazar Focus. Each Friday, join host diplomatic correspondent Lazar Berman for a deep dive into what's behind the news that spins the globe.
The world, and most Israelis, were horrified this week as a photo of an IDF soldier smashing a statue of Jesus in Lebanon spread across social media. The act was roundly condemned by the army and by Israel's leaders.
Yet, it happened.
And it wasn't the first time Israeli soldiers had disrespected Christian sites in Lebanon, nor was it the only instance of Israel drawing the ire of Christians around the world.
Rabbi David Rosen is a leader in Israeli and Jewish ties with Christians, especially the Catholic Church. Drawing on decades of experience, including numerous meetings with popes, he lays out the moral reasons for investing in ties with the Christian world, and why it is in Israel's national interest to get these relations right.
He calls the modern Catholic Church a "loyal friend to the Jewish people," marking the "most dramatic transformation in the course of human history." The vast majority of the Christian world does not want to be seen as antisemitic, and sees itself as an ally of the Jewish people.
But there is much to be done. Israel still has not concluded its decades-long talks with the Vatican, despite promising to wrap them up in the 1990s.
Moreover, Israeli society doesn't understand the Christian world. Most religious Israelis have had no meaningful relationships with Christians, and see them through shallow stereotypes of historical antisemitism -- "almost a reverse image of some of the anti-Semitic cartoon images." Even worse, extremists continue to harass Christians in the Old City of Jerusalem and beyond.
Rosen points at urgent tasks Israel must complete undertake if it is to get ties with Christians right. It must fix the "fundamental and enormous educational flaw" in schools by creating curricula to familiarize Israeli students with contemporary Christians, including their communities inside of Israel.
Police must crack down on harassment of Christians in order to stamp out the phenomenon.
Finally, he says, a senior official position must be created to build Israel's strategy toward churches and the broader Christian world. "There is no strategic thinking, no strategic approach whatsoever on the part of sequential governments of government after government in Israel," he laments, "because basically there has not been an understanding that this needs to be a priority in any way."
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Laser Focus. I am your host, Laser Berman. So today, this week, I'm not coming to you |
| 0:08.6 | entirely as a diplomatic correspondent, but also as Times of Israel's Christian Affairs reporters. |
| 0:13.7 | Of course, the two issues are very often related. And this, we saw another example of it this week. |
| 0:19.2 | There was that terrible, terrible image that went very quickly around the world of an IDF soldier |
| 0:25.9 | in Lebanon, in a Christian village, taking a hammer to a statue of Jesus. |
| 0:31.7 | Of course, it was terrible for a number of reasons, of course, what it does to Israel's |
| 0:36.4 | reputation, things like that, but also what it says about Israel, of course, what it does to Israel's reputation, things like that, but also |
| 0:38.8 | what it says about Israel. Of course, most Israelis were horrified by it, but this is someone who |
| 0:44.7 | was in uniform, was around other soldiers, had someone take the picture, thought it was a good |
| 0:49.8 | idea to upload it, and wasn't stopped at any point along the way. I think this is a very unfortunate |
| 0:57.0 | incident, but it's a good opportunity to take a minute and talk about what is Israel's relationship |
| 1:03.2 | with the Catholic Church? What is the Catholic Church is relationship with Israel? What is |
| 1:10.0 | Israel doing well about its relations with Christians? |
| 1:13.4 | What are the challenges? |
| 1:14.5 | And what must it do better? |
| 1:16.7 | So after the commercial break, we're going to come back with perhaps the leading expert on these issues to talk about Israel and the Christian world. |
| 1:26.1 | When were the two of you the closest? |
| 1:27.6 | If you ask her, she was very young. |
| 1:31.8 | Before she could talk. |
| 1:34.1 | The slightly bossy, big sister there is my mother. |
| 1:38.2 | And sitting right beside her. |
| 1:40.4 | I'm Carol's sister, Mitch's aunt from New York. |
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