Hello, I'm Peter Kofka. I'm an editor at Recode, and you're listening to Recode Media, a podcast where I sit down with the most interesting people in media and technology to understand what happens when those two things collide. And I'm Kara Swisher, host of Recode Decode, where Peter got his start. And now you have your own show. So there's going to be no living with you, correct? I had a tantrum and then I got my way.

So yeah, I'm really insufferable.

But thanks for having me.

I really appreciate it.

No problem. show. So there's going to be no living with you, correct? I had a tantrum and then I got my way. So, yeah, I'm really insufferable. But thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.

No problem. Just, you know, a thanks now and then would be nice. A little card, a little call, stuff like that. I will call weekly. Okay. You guys are listening to this podcast now, so we don't need to tell you how to get to it. We should also tell you that Kara's awesome podcast is continuing,

so you should go listen to that, but you already know that as well. Yeah, you can do that at iTunes.com slash Recode Media. And while you're there, after you listen to the episode, leave Peter a review and make it nice. Make it nice. Stars are good. If you have insulting things to say to me, like other people do, Twitter is a great forum for that.

Someone mentioned wanting to hit me the other day. That was me. I'm sorry. But that's better for Twitter. Yeah, that was you. Yeah. All right. So enough showing. Who did you talk to this week? You have a fantastic interview. Someone I know very well. Carrie, you know everyone. No, him. I used to drive home from work at the Washington Post.

I actually know him better than most people.

Okay.

Well, now we should just tell them who it is.

It's David Remnick. everyone. No, him. I used to drive home from work at the Washington Post. I actually know him better than most people.

Okay.

Well, now we should just tell him who it is.

It's David Remnick.

He edits a little magazine called The New Yorker.

We had an awesome conversation.

And he's facing all kinds of issues.

I mean, the changing magazine landscape, all kinds of stuff like that.

And he's been very interested in the digital sector for a long time. He's very interested in digital sector. I harbor a belief, and I said this to him during the interview, that I think he still is first and foremost a print guy. He likes a magazine. He likes holding it in his hand. We discussed that. He disagrees. And again, it's a pretty good discussion. Cool. because they've got kind of an old-timey audience, too, people who do like print, who do enjoy it. They have an aging audience.

He made a point of saying that they also have an audience that go Cool, because they've got kind of an old-timey audience, too, people who do like print, who do enjoy it.

They have an aging audience.

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