Chris Van Bleach.

Yeah.

Then bleed.

Yeah.

It's inside with Chris Dan.

I don't think we can fit your arms in this shot.

Look at my goodness.

And I flex on key.

Anytime somebody mentions my arms.

Look at my little puny arms by comparison.

Are you in better shape now than when you were wrestling?

Yes, I would say so.

Really?

I would say so, well, for me, because from a physique perspective, like, I've always weighed 235, like, since I was 22 years old, no matter what. But my body fat percentage, you know, is way down, like, the detail, the condition. Used to be all just about size and just getting big for me. And I did that, got really strong and all that. But then it's

like, all right, Ben there done that. I want like a refined. I want to look like a superhero. And so I want to maintain the size, but just lose fat, etching the details. Yeah, I love it. But you're not in a job anymore where you have to take your shirt off and you're in front of everybody and your underwear.

That is a great point. And people ask me, I'm all like, what are you training for?

Like what are you? Oh, you're coming back to the rig? Yeah. Well, that's not why I'm doing this. I do this because I love it every day. And that's the challenge of it is sometimes like trying to find

that motivation when I know that I don't have to have my shirt off, but yet still trying to push myself as hard as I can. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. I love that idea, though, of doing something hard every day. Yes. Like pushing yourself to do something when it's uncomfortable. Yes. Like when it's part of your job to be in great shape, it's just a job requirement. When you look like this and you're like, yeah, I'm a, I'm a lawyer. It's like it's a different type of discipline. No, it absolutely is. And it's one of those things that like, you know, it's earned. The only way you get that is by going every day by being dedicated on your diet, all of that stuff.

You can't buy it. You can't go to school to get it. It just takes hard work and dedication over a period of years.

So it kind of became, you know, it has become my hobby and then kind of my passion too.

Because like what I'm really grateful for is being able to pass this on to my son

now who is I mean his physique is amazing I wish I looked like that when I was 16 I saw a clip that

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