The Athletic FC Podcast Network.

Hello and welcome to the TIFO football podcast. I'm Joe Devine. And today I'm delighted to be

joined by JJ Ball. Hello. John McKenzie. Hello. And ah, here he comes all the way from his snow palace of wonder in the grey land

of nothingness.

Media City, it's Hamburg's Seb Staford Bloor.

Ah, Joe.

Yes, that's right.

Seb, I don't know if people know this, Seb lives in the media city of Germany where

it's always grey, but they make delicious jewels. Yeah? I had some great people. You saw a really nice, you saw a really nice bunker as well. A bunker. Don't undersell your experience. I talked about the bunker last week, I think, didn't I? No, I talked about the bunker. Yeah, I heard you took him to the mill and tour. It's the only thing in Hamburg that he took a photo crop on. It's a big bunker.

I want to see the bunker and other war stuff. Was it a war thing? I think it was a war thing. I thought it was the German version of the Barbecue. Be weird to build a bunker in peacetime, unless you were very paranoid. A bunker is just what you call it, right? I think a bunker is a... You could call you a house a bunker if you wanted to. You could do, if it would protect you from falling bombs. This is a dangerous area for us to step into, and Steve's already telling you to speed it up. So there we go. Also, hi to Steve Hanky, producer. Hello, Steve. Hello. That's enough from you. Here's things we discussed on today's episode. We didn't talk about bombs any more than we just did. There's no other war chat. Don't worry about it. It sounds like it's a tetchy weird start. It was a normal happy episode. No discussion of war. But we did talk about David Moyes going full circle at Everton. Very exciting there. Our Arsenal

reaching the end of a mini cycle. It's not full circle, is it? He went to one place and then came back. That's a line. I'm just reading what Steve's written. Wow. I mean, listen. Steve, isn't it? We all know what happens when I read what Steve's written. I start talking about war. The multiplayer food game

overcooked. We learned from that. JJ brought this game. It turns out we've all

played it apart from step up. The useful analogy? That's right. It was a good analogy. For what I can't recall. But it doesn't matter. Football squad building, I believe. Or getting better. There you go. Speaking of getting better,

Graham Potter will be looking to mould the hammers into another iron-based substance.

When he smelt them.

He'll smelt them down and rebuild them back up again

as fiery toads.

Swords.

Swords. That's what you make out of iron, not toads.

You could. You make a pretty strong toad you could make an incredibly strong toad and then you could throw the toad at people's heads that's war again no no we play points of bad that was a kind of a war to be honest but it's a very peaceful sort of war where there were no injuries apart to the pride of JJ Ball.

Does the sea ever end? Oh yeah. And the Easter eggs or Da Vinci Code clothes that Seb has left litter the podcasts throughout the years. We discovered or that's not true.

You know, so there we go.

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