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Our American Stories

David McCullough on Why the Founding Fathers Were Not Like Us

Our American Stories

iHeartPodcasts

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.6817 Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Our American Stories, the late historian David McCullough explains why America’s Founding Fathers cannot be understood as ordinary people living modern lives. Drawing on his deep study of figures like John and Abigail Adams, McCullough describes a world shaped by slow communication, constant risk, and immense personal responsibility. Decisions were made without instant news, quick consultation, or shared blame, and the consequences were often life or death. McCullough argues that to understand the founders, we must understand the culture they lived in, the hardships they endured, and the moral weight they carried. It is a reminder that history is not abstract and that character is formed under pressure.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.3

Guaranteed Human.

0:14.1

And we continue with our American stories.

0:17.9

And up next, the late historian, David McC McCullough is here to tell the story of John

0:24.9

Adams. And we want to thank the John Adams Institute in the Netherlands for providing and sharing this

0:31.3

audio with us. This was a speech McCullough gave before he died in the Netherlands at the Institute.

0:38.7

Here's David McCullough with some of his great storytelling about our founding fathers

0:44.5

and why we must know our history.

0:48.6

They weren't just like we are.

0:51.0

We can never assume they were just.

0:52.4

They were nothing like we are in many, many ways.

0:55.0

And I, one of the ways I tried to get inside their lives was to try and read not just what they wrote, but what they read.

1:03.0

So I tried to read all the writers that Abigail and John read, Defoe, Swift, Pope, Servantes, Shakespeare.

1:13.6

And what's so fascinating is to see how often they are not just

1:17.6

picking up ideas or turns of phrases, but whole sentences,

1:21.6

whole thoughts that come word for word out of that English literature. When I say that some people write diplomatic

1:31.3

history and some people write military history, I'm not saying that that's not the way to do

1:36.8

it. Thank goodness they do it. Those are serious works by serious people about serious subjects,

1:42.3

and they're important. they play a great part

1:44.4

in the overall understanding of the past. All I'm saying is that's not what I do. And I also

1:53.5

do feel that you must understand the chemistry of it. You can't possibly understand the Truman

2:00.8

administration, for example, without understanding

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