Welcome to the Edge of Sports podcast. I'm Dave Ziron. This week we are talking to a first ballot Hall of Fame writer and journalist David Marinus. We're going to discuss his new book, Path Lit by Lightning,

The Life of Jim Thorpe. You may know David Marinus from his reporting for decades with the

Washington Post, as well as a series of amazing books he's written like a good American family,

but he's also known for writing some sports books. He wrote a book about Vince Lombardi. He wrote a book about

Roberto Clemente. He wrote a book about the 1960 Olympics in Rome. And now he's writing about

Jim Thorpe. So I can't tell you how excited I am to speak with him about this project. Also, I've got

some choice words about the 100th birthday of the great Rachel Robinson.

If you don't know the name Rachel Robinson, you're going to want to hear this.

I've got just stand up and just sit down towards and more.

But first, let's talk to David Marinus.

My first question is really, you know, you can write about anyone or anything.

You know, that's part of being David Marinus.

So why Jim Thorpe?

And how long had he been on your sort of to-do list of people that you had wanted to explore?

You know, Dave, over 20 years ago I was on book tour

for they marched into sunlight and I was in Denver and after an event a man

named Norbert Hill who's from the Oneida Nation in Wisconsin, who was there,

came up to me and said, you got to do a book, a biography of Jim Thorpe.

And he handed me some material.

And I have to confess that I, you know, I didn't buy into it at that point.

I had other things on my agenda and I tend not to do stories that

someone else suggests to me. But he planted a seed that I didn't even realize he planted. And so after I had

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