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Matter of Opinion

David Leonhardt Returns for a Debate Debate

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

David Leonhardt returns to the podcast to celebrate its 100 episodes and two years on the air. Together, the O.G. “Argument” hosts dissect the final presidential debate, argue over the validity of the Hunter Biden allegations, and discuss Joe Biden’s campaign strategy in its final 11 days. Then, David looks into his crystal ball and makes election predictions — both national and state. Finally, David recommends finding the joy of a daily routine with family through the soothing tones of Alex Trebek. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:01.9

I'm Ross Douthet, and this is the argument.

0:09.6

This week, the final presidential debate, the endgame of the 2020 campaign, and for this

0:17.1

shows two-year anniversary, a very special guest.

0:27.5

Last night, Joe Biden and Donald Trump met in the 2020 elections final presidential

0:32.2

debate.

0:33.2

And here to talk about that debate and the last days of the race with us is our old friend

0:39.1

longtime argument co-host David Lee and Hart, who we have kidnapped from the news side

0:44.3

where he now runs an amazing newsletter to force him to give us his takes and the last

0:49.8

days of 2020.

0:51.4

David, sorry about the kidnapping.

0:54.2

Welcome back to the show.

0:55.4

David is wonderful to be here.

0:56.4

I missed you both and our listeners.

0:58.2

We missed you, David.

0:59.2

We did.

1:00.2

It's been a pretty, you know, I mean, a lot has happened since you decided, you know,

1:04.1

since you got pulled off into the exciting world of the newsroom and the newsletter that

1:09.2

you now run.

1:10.2

I'm not going to say that I hold you personally responsible for, you know, the collapse

1:14.9

of America into plague, fire, and fury, but, you know, I mean, I think, I think maybe

1:20.3

if you'd stuck with the show 2020 would have been a little calmer.

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