David Lammy's plan to stop Farage | Exclusive interview
The Politics Show
The New Statesman
4.2 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 31 October 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
The Deputy PM believes that Labour can beat the threat of the populist right, Nigel Farage and Reform. Lammy says that Labour can achieve this by tackling the cost of living crisis, uniting the centre and left of British politics and putting security first.
Oli Dugmore sat down with David Lammy to discuss his plan.
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| 0:00.0 | The New Statesman. |
| 0:06.6 | David Lammy's got a plan. |
| 0:09.1 | It's a strategy or vision, maybe even a philosophy, of how to defeat Nigel Farage. |
| 0:15.8 | If the national political story continues on current trends, and don't get me wrong, that is a big if, then |
| 0:22.2 | Reform UK will be the next government. And that state of affairs naturally provokes progressives |
| 0:27.5 | to ask, how do we stop them? Now, if you're not affiliated to the Labour Party, your answer |
| 0:32.6 | is probably tactical voting, be it plied Cumbry, as we saw in the Kaffili by-election last |
| 0:37.2 | week, or the Lib Dems, or even thery, as we saw in the Kaffili by-election last week, or the |
| 0:38.3 | Lib Dems, or even the Greens, as well as the Labour Party. But, obviously, the Deputy Prime Minister, |
| 0:44.5 | Lord Chancellor, Secretary of State for Justice and the Labour MP for Tottenham, has a different answer. |
| 0:50.4 | Its first step is addressing the cost of living crisis, and whilst it isn't Marxist, |
| 0:55.7 | it's certainly an analysis of the material conditions of normal people. |
| 0:59.8 | And that's combined with the need to unify the left and centre, as well as focusing on security at home and abroad. |
| 1:06.5 | But that's me paraphrasing. |
| 1:08.6 | So let's hear him say it in his own words. |
| 1:11.2 | I'm Olly Dugmore, and this is the New Statesman podcast. |
| 1:14.3 | David Lammy, hello? |
| 1:15.2 | Hello. |
| 1:15.8 | Will the Labour Party beat Nigel Farage? |
| 1:18.1 | Yes, I think we will. |
| 1:19.0 | How? |
| 1:20.0 | There's a lot of ingredients to that. |
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