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The Lawfare Podcast

David Kaye on Free Speech During a Pandemic

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🗓️ 16 May 2020

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

The global pandemic has raised searching questions about the relationship between a public health emergency and free speech. Jack Goldsmith sat down with David Kaye, the outgoing U.N. Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of the right to freedom of opinion and expression, to talk about Kaye’s new U.N. report on “Disease pandemics and the freedom of opinion and expression.” The pair discussed the impact the pandemic has had on hostility to speech in different parts of world, the importance of information during a pandemic and much more.

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You know, so much of what actually gets out to the public depends on, you know,

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getting your message out through these platforms that control, you know, different speech rules.

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And, you know, this isn't so much a problem for, for just, you know, posting events and those kinds of things.

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As much as it's become, I think, a concern for many people around the world

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that when it comes to issues like hate speech or disinformation or harassment,

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the platforms are very disconnected from kind of the cultural norms, the legal norms,

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you know, the political norms that exist in a particular country.

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And that just created a lot of alienation for people.

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And I don't think it's resolved because governments have done very little, you know,

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even in those places where, you know, like in Europe, where they've been talking about regulation for a long time,

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they've done very little to actually regulate.

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And so the platforms still have this massive, this massive power.

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I am Jacob Schultz, and this is the law fair podcast, May 16, 2020.

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The global pandemic has raised searching questions about the relationship between a public health emergency and free speech.

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Jack Goldsmith sat down with David Kay, the outgoing UN Special Repetur on the promotion and protection of the right to freedom of opinion and expression,

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to talk about Kay's new UN report on disease pandemics and the freedom of information and expression.

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