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David Kahn on Codebreaking from Ancient Times to the Internet Era

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History, Education, News

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2010

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

David Kahn is the author of the classic book The Codebreakers. When it was first published in 1967, the National Security Agency was concerned that the book might reveal sensitive secrets. Over the years, however, NSA changed from perceiving Kahn as “an enemy of the people” to depending on him as a popularizer of codebreaking. Join Peter and David Kahn as they discuss Kahn’s career, some of the greatest triumphs of American signals intelligence history, and the challenges facing today’s codebreakers.

Transcript

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0:07.0

Hello. Hello and welcome to Spycast from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C.

0:21.0

I'm Peter Ernest, the Executive Director of the Museum. I served for some

0:26.0

36 years in the Central Intelligence Agency, largely as what is called an operations officer

0:31.6

or a case officer.

0:33.1

Every month will be bringing you interesting talks

0:35.9

with visitors, with authors, with others who

0:38.6

have something to do with the world of intelligence

0:41.4

and espionage.

0:45.0

My guest today is something of a legend in intelligence history himself.

0:50.0

It's David Kahn, and many of you will know that name because he literally wrote the book.

0:55.0

He is the one who wrote the Croedbakers which became the seminal book on the whole

1:09.8

practice, art if you will, the how-tos and so forth on code-breaking. It came out in 1967, ran to over a thousand pages, but it is the book you will find on every

1:16.4

library shelf of a serious intelligence historian. He's currently on our board of

1:21.8

directors, he's a former reporter with News Day and he was the editor of the Paris Herald Tribune.

1:29.0

David, welcome.

1:31.0

Thanks very much, Peter.

1:32.0

Okay. You are much, Peter. Okay.

1:33.0

You are a prolific writer.

1:34.7

I know your most recent book is The Reader of Gentleman's Mail, Herbert O'Yardley, and

1:39.6

the Birth of American Code Breaking. Let me just ask you, what brought you to code breaking, just as a subject?

1:47.6

You've literally devoted your life to this.

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