Hey, hi, welcome to the Eric Mataxi Show. I'm the announcer Todd Wilkerson, and I'm

taking a bubble bath right now. Yeah, it's such a treat, luxuriating in this warm

water with scented candles and my favorite rock'em on and off. Oh, no, no, sorry, it's

bubble. Anyway, that's the beauty of radio. No one can see you in your nakedness. Well, I'd

like to get back to my fashion magazine. So let me introduce your host, Eric Mataxi.

All right, Todd, that's enough. That is enough. I can't believe this. Albin, I told you,

we cannot have this. This is, this is a professional organization. Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize

for Todd and Todd apologizes for me. So we're even. In this hour, I get to talk with an old

friend about a brand new book. My friend is John Seale. His official name is David John Seale,

Jr. His new book is the new Copernican's millennials and the survival of the church. John has

so many things that he's done. I don't know where to begin. He's got a PhD in American studies

from the University of Maryland. He's got an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary, a

BA from Austin College. He's got several wives. No, you just have one wife, right? At

a time. Just one wife. Listen, my friend. Welcome to the program. Thank you so much. It's

an honor to be with you. What you were with the John Templeton Foundation. What was your

title at the Templeton Foundation? I was a director of cultural engagement. Do you ever

get me any money? I didn't. No, I tried. I know you did. I have to joke. Let me ask you

a question, sir. The title of your book is the new Copernican's millennials and the survival

of the church. The most obvious first question is, if this is a book about millennials and

the church, why did you pick as your title the new Copernican's? Well, first of all, millennials

hate to become millennials. There is no millennial that will affirm that name because they have

been put down so much. Right. And their stereotypes have been parodied so widely as entitled,

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