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David Ignatius: Trump is stuck somewhere between war and peace

Morning Joe

Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski, MS NOW, Willie Geist

Washington, Congress, Government, Politics, President, Scarboro, Election, Brezinski, Ms Now, News, Issues, Giest, Campaign

3.98.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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David Ignatius: Trump is stuck somewhere between war and peace

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0:00.0

The U.S. State Department is introducing a special edition passport that features an image of Donald Trump.

0:05.5

So you'll always carry your reminder of why you fled the country.

0:11.0

Also, I love that the picture of Trump is apparently burning a hole in the declaration of independent.

0:19.7

The timing, right? Anyway, good morning and welcome to a morning show. It's Monday, May the

0:26.4

Fourth. Star Wars Day, may the Fourth be with you, of course, yesterday. A celebration all

0:33.3

over the world for Willie Geist's Day. It was Willie's birthday on Sunday and Mika's on Saturday.

0:41.7

We went to see some horses race somewhere in the South. With us today we have on May the 4th.

0:51.3

Co-hosts of our 9 a.m. hour staff writer at the Atlantic John Lamere columnist and associate editor at the Washington Post, David Ignatius.

0:58.3

We had senior writer at the dispatch and columnist at Bloomberg Opinion, David Drucker,

1:02.4

and co-host of The Rest is Politics podcast on the BBC or the BBC's Katty Kay.

1:10.7

Everybody thanks so much for being with this.

1:12.9

John Lemire, the Force, definitely not with our Red Sox.

1:19.8

And, oh, my, I didn't.

1:22.4

I'm sorry.

1:23.5

I'm sorry.

1:24.2

I'm sorry.

1:24.7

I forgot.

1:25.8

I forgot about the Celtics.

1:27.3

I should not have even brought up sports.

1:29.4

We should have gone straight to horses. I did not do that on purpose, but once the door was opened and I saw you crumble, let's just go there.

1:40.4

First of all, really the worst Red Sox team I can remember. They fired the wrong

1:49.0

person and the people in the organization. Then, of course, last night, heartbreak for the Celtics.

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