Welcome back to bribes, swindle, or steel. I'm Alexander Rogge, and today I'm in London,

just off Truffolgar Square at the Sirius Fraud Office. I'm speaking with the director of the

serious fraud office, David Green, who needs no additional

introduction.

Thank you for joining me today, David.

The last time I saw you, we were rubbing noses with our hosts at a traditional Maori

welcome ceremony in New Zealand, so that's hard to talk.

I remember it well.

But let's see where we can go.

First, for those who are unfamiliar with the SFO, can you describe its mandate and how it's

organized?

Yeah, the SFO was established in 1988, really as a result of a committee that was set to work

under Lord Roskill, a senior judge at that time, to look into the

way serious and complex fraud was investigated, prosecuted and tried.

And as a result of his recommendations, they set up the serious fraud office, which is unique

in this respect that it both investigates and prosecutes cases. So our cases are

conducted by case teams led by case controller and the teams are multi-skilled. They will

have lawyers, administrators, investigators, computer experts, accountants, whatever is required.

But that's the approach. Our jurisdiction

is England, Wales and Northern Ireland, with this caveat that under our bribery act, we

have Section 7 of the Bribery Act, which creates an offence of a company failing to prevent acts of bribery by persons

associated with it. Now those persons can be anywhere in the world. So if a company has links

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