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To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes

David Frum: Why Trump is Failing

To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes

Charlie Sykes

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.9718 Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

David Frum of The Atlantic joins Charlie to break down the shifting public opinion on Trump, Pam Bondi’s congressional testimony, and how AI is changing us.

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0:00.0

I'm Charlie Sykes. Welcome back to the contrary podcast. In my newsletter yesterday, I started off with the three scariest words in the English language, three years left. But Donald Trump's poll ratings are now down to 36 percent, according to the AP. And I think over the last week, we got an indication that his administration is not

0:21.2

overly stacked with the best and the brightest. So where are we? We have a lot to talk about

0:27.7

this weekend. And joining me on our weekend podcast, our good friend David From from the

0:34.7

Atlantic and the host of the David From show. David, thank you for coming

0:37.6

back on the podcast. Thank you. I'm a little nervous to be recording on Friday the 13th and even more

0:42.8

nervous. This is the day before Valentine's Day, one of the most fraught days in the annual

0:49.2

calendar, if not possibly, is dangerous. Dangerous. I call it, I've often said that for men, it's like New Year's Eve only with

0:57.5

nuclear weapons. Yes. And you know, you're right. This is one of the most fraught days. I mean,

1:02.3

not only is it February 13th, and by the way, I'm going to confess that I probably wouldn't get on an airplane

1:06.8

today. It's completely irrational, but we have those genes in our head. Well, okay, so we have

1:11.5

so much to talk about this, this week, whether we're talking about the withdrawal from Minneapolis,

1:17.3

the walk back on the tariffs, the latest stories about Christy Knom, Pam Bondi's extraordinary

1:23.1

meltdown before Congress. But I thought we just start off with it with a pallid cleanser

1:28.6

along the lines of, you know, the, we talked a lot about the brutality and the venality and

1:35.6

the extremism of the administration. I think it's also worth pointing out just the complete

1:41.1

incompetence and nuttiness. And you probably caught, well, I know that

1:45.0

you caught, this very interesting moment where Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., the Secretary of the

1:51.2

Department of Health and Human Services, is on a podcast, and he's talking about one of his former

1:57.4

habits. This is what he had to say. And I said, I'm not scared of a germ. You know,

2:02.3

I used to snort cocaine off a toilet disease. Okay, David, your thoughts. Well, I'm not any kind

2:11.7

of drug user and never have been, but according to the movies, I always thought that cocaine was cut up on little

2:18.5

elegant mirrors and sniffed through $100 bills. It was a dangerous habit. It was a habit that led

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