David Frum: Trump’s "America First" Is Actually "America Alone"
To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes
Charlie Sykes
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🗓️ 14 May 2026
⏱️ 54 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Charlie Sykes. Welcome back to the To the Contrary Podcast. Donald Trump heads off to China, a much emboldened China. |
| 0:09.2 | And before he leaves, not only does, he meltdown on social media, but he accidentally tells the truth, which is that he really doesn't care about the financial situation of most American families. |
| 0:20.1 | Meanwhile, it appears that his Department of Justice is about to |
| 0:23.7 | settle a case that will further enrich Donald Trump. And of course, the Democrats do what they do |
| 0:30.5 | best. They fight among themselves. It's a busy week. |
| 0:37.4 | And joining me on the podcast is our good friend David Frum, staff writer for the Atlantic, host of the David From show, YouTube star. |
| 0:45.2 | Welcome back, David. I appreciate it. |
| 0:47.2 | Thank you. YouTube Star is one of those, it's like porn star. Like how much of a star are you really if you're on YouTube? |
| 0:54.5 | Yeah. |
| 0:55.6 | Well, that's the thing is you sort of have to remind yourself, I'm a star, I'm a YouTube star, whatever that means. |
| 1:01.8 | I have to say, and I mentioned this before we actually started, I have been reading your wife's book and your interview with her, your wife, Dan Yaniel, who's written this absolutely, I mean, eloquent but gutting book of how to survive losing a child, dealing with this. The book is Dispatches from Grief. And I have to say that it is, I think anyone who's lost a loved one knows how painful it is to lose a child is beyond imagination so |
| 1:29.4 | i i just can't imagine um with everything going on in the world uh your conversations with your |
| 1:36.5 | wife your willingness to share this has really been extraordinary but um so i appreciate uh talking |
| 1:42.7 | with you today well Well, thank you. |
| 1:44.5 | We just finished. |
| 1:45.4 | The book launched on the 5th of May. |
| 1:47.4 | And some of the early interviews, Danielle and I have done together. |
| 1:50.7 | And I was just in New York with her. |
| 1:53.7 | We talked together. |
| 1:55.0 | She was on my podcast, and we talked about it together. |
| 1:57.9 | And I don't feel any need to justify this. Danielle sometimes has a queasy feeling |
| 2:05.4 | about it. And there are two lessons that I have learned about the immensity of loss. And I should say, |
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