David Frum on Trumpocalypse
The Lawfare Podcast
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4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 10 June 2020
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
David Frum is one of the most prominent and eloquent conservative critics of the president. The former George W. Bush speechwriter and current writer for The Atlantic has written "Trumpocalypse: Restoring American Democracy," a book about the Trump presidency, and in this case, what comes after it. David joined Benjamin Wittes for a wide-ranging conversation of the ground he covers in the book: how you rebuild after Trump, how you satisfy elements of Trumpism without letting them descend back into authoritarian populism, what policies and approaches a new administration should take and how we should treat the "Trumpists" and their most diehard supporters.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:34.0 | Even now we let politicians draw districts. |
| 0:37.0 | No one on earth does that. |
| 0:38.9 | In fact, when you explain it to people from other countries, they think it's not good. |
| 0:42.6 | Politicians draw their own districts. |
| 0:44.1 | Won't they favor themselves? |
| 0:45.4 | Yes. |
| 0:46.4 | Isn't that wrong? |
| 0:48.4 | We don't think so or we don't seem to or we don't do anything about it. |
| 0:51.6 | So that's a view that I've had for a long time but it's become very important during |
| 0:57.0 | this pandemic. |
| 0:58.5 | Why is the American response to the pandemic been so uniquely bad? |
| 1:02.7 | And I think the answer to that is the lack of professionals at the very top of the American |
| 1:06.2 | government. |
| 1:07.2 | It's an amateur government by design and maybe there's a case for that in the area of foreign |
| 1:10.7 | policy, new presidents get to bring in new ideas. |
| 1:13.8 | But in the realm of public health it means you have people at the top who are picked for |
| 1:16.7 | reasons entirely apart from their expertise in public health. |
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