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The Bulwark Podcast

David Frum: A Very Bad Time for Bozos to Be in Charge

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.611.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

The U.S. is at war with the leading state sponsor of terror, and Donald Trump appointed Markwayne Mullin—a man with no counter-terrorism experience—to help defend the homeland. At the same time, Hegseth is a meathead, and the shoe designer at the top of the FBI is preoccupied with visiting all the places on his bucket list. This is the moment for Democrats to argue that Trump has made the country very vulnerable. Plus, the administration apparently did not consider worst case scenarios vis-à-vis Iran, the Iraq War planners look like pros in comparison, Denmark was seriously preparing for an American invasion of Greenland, and is Israel's conduct contributing to the growing antisemitism problem?

David Frum joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod.

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller,

0:15.2

delighted. Welcome back to the show. One of our faves is a staff writer at the Atlantic

0:19.2

and host of the David From podcast.

0:22.4

That's our friend David From. What's up, man? Thank you, Tim. Good to be on home field today.

0:27.4

Well, you hosted me on your show where we hashed out whether, you know, I've gone too native with my friends on the left and whether I'm too much of a code pink piece, Nick, now.

0:38.7

So I want to continue that conversation towards the end of this podcast. But first, we've got to get

0:43.3

to the news. And I'm here in Texas. And we have learned that Walker, Texas Ranger himself, Chuck

0:49.2

Norris, has moved on from this mortal coil. We send our sympathies to him and his family. I'm wondering

0:55.8

if you have any life experiences with Chuck Norris or his fellow Magas. The first time I became

1:02.4

aware of you, and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way to Chuck Norris, was you were

1:06.7

battling on television, an extremely small Trump supporter. I'd heard of you by reputation, but I'd never

1:12.5

seen this. He was in a booster chair. Because you have such an affable manner. I'd never seen like the

1:16.7

knife underneath the sleeve. And he called you at one point a fake conservative. And you said,

1:21.5

if I'm the fake, why are you sitting on a booster seat? And it was just the walls came in. Chuck Norris, obviously, a great American,

1:29.1

a great star, but it is worth remembering how many of the Trump supporters, like him, like Cash Patel,

1:33.4

are extremely small people. And you were the first to point out this trend. Well, I appreciate that.

1:39.0

I appreciate the recognition on that. I don't, I'd never met Chuck Norris in person. How we was he?

1:43.5

Like a lot of movie stars. And the camera likes small people. I don't know quite why that is. Maybe they have better skin, but there's something the camera does love its actors to be on the small side. Yeah, it is frustrating for those. That's why you're not a movie star. That's why you're not. I know. Trust me. I always look at the photos of myself on Instagram and I'm like I'm handsomer than this am I not let's get on to some more

2:07.3

important news I want to as mentioned kind of back into Iran and hash out my new peace

2:14.5

neck turn but first I want to go through the Trump crazies of the week because there's so much to discuss.

2:20.8

I guess we'll start with the coins.

2:22.9

There's news yesterday at the Treasury Department is hurtling forward with minting what will now be

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