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You want to see what I do during the day when I'm not interviewing people from Rugby?

Well you can find me at Bade Moore-Unkel Independent Financial Advisors.

So there's a little shout out for the family business,

for the family firm.

Today's interview is with, well, you'll find out in just one second,

but if you've been listening over the last couple of weeks,

you'll see that we had Sir Ian McGeeKeek and on a couple of weeks ago.

We had Rob Baxter last week.

And if there's anyone that you particularly want to hear me interview, please just drop us a line on the

Twitter account or however else you decide to find us and let us know

and we'll see if we can arrange it. Anyway, enough of all that because there is a conversation

to be had. So, here you go. go right well I am delighted to welcome rugby guru no no I'm not

going to go with rugby guru I'm gonna say co-host of the flats and Shanks

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