From KCRW, Santa Monica and KCRW.com, this is The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment, which you can also hear at KCRW.com.

My guest, writer-director, David Chase, was last here 10 years ago for his series, The Sopranos, of which you may have heard.

And the last time I talked to him before that was when I met him, when he did what I thought was one of the greatest series of the 80s, almost grown.

His new movie, Not Fade Away, is is another movie another project that takes a

title from a song first of all dear it so good to have you back thanks nice to be here

and then see you good to see you too and talk about that that title the not fade away

oh not fade away is the name of a buddy holly song that was uh written by and performed by the crickets

uh with buddy holly singing lead and then was covered by the Rolling Stones

in early 60 in 64 and the movie is set in a really interesting time both socially but

culturally and and it's interesting to see you go back to that I mean the way pop culture

really rocks the world and everything rolls out from that because it's the way I think

of your best stuff almost grown and one of my favorite Rockford Files episodes where he basically

finds this old R&B group, an episode that you wrote. Just the way that music really shapes the way

you think, does that? It does. It really does. I mean, I've just loved it since I was a kid and been interested in it and revel in it.

And it does affect the way I think. I think I got most of my information about the world not through that, through music, but because of it.

I mean, I went to school. I was a English literature major at NYU.

I was there for four years, and I really was much more involved

with aftermath and between the buttons. I mean, I'm not the only one. That's what I was really,

that's what I was really boring into. Even though I was supposed to be reading Hawthorne and Paul,

and I did all that, but not with the interest in the depth that I did with British Invasion music.

Because the thing I like about the movie is that it feels like a 180 from Sopranos,

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