David? Hi. Is this better? Yeah, yeah, that's better. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. You're

blurry and maybe it was a weak connection. It was a weak connection. I put it on a better connection.

Well, I must apologize. This is very uncharacteristic of me to be so like this. I'm trying to fit you in

in the middle of an extraordinarily stressful move. And it's not your fault at all. It's my fault

entirely, but I'm trying very hard to get you in because I really want to highlight your book.

And sometimes I take on too, sometimes I take on too much stuff and it's yeah.

Hey, no worries at all. No worries at all. I appreciate you fitting me in.

Yeah. Thanks, David. It's really nice to meet you. You're obviously a legend in my field.

And so it's pretty, pretty much an honor to talk to you. Oh, thank you. Thank you.

I love it by some hate it by others. Perhaps. Well, we can talk about, we can talk about that.

You know, and it's funny. It's not like anyone, like it's not like people hate you

personally. It's so funny how we as like a, well, maybe some do. I don't know about that,

but I'm saying in terms of evolution, it's like, it's like you're a symbol of, it's funny how

people can hate an individual because they become a symbol for someone of something.

Right. It's fascinating how that happens.

Well, I can, I'm ready to jump in if you're ready. Yep, I am ready.

Today, it's today, it's great to have David bust on the podcast. David is a professor of

psychology, University of Texas, Austin is one of the founders of the field of evolutionary psychology.

His primary research focus is on strategies of human mating, particularly the dark side of

human mating nature, including conflict between the sexes, jealousy, stalking, intimate partner

violence and murder. Basically, the greatest hits of the dark side. David is author of a number of

books on mating, including the evolution of desire. And most recently, why men behave badly.

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