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The Unmistakable Creative Podcast

David Brooks: Seeing People Deeply in a World of Shallow Interactions

The Unmistakable Creative Podcast

Srinivas Rao

Society & Culture

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

New York Times columnist and bestselling author **David Brooks** joins Srini Rao to unpack what it really means to know and see another person — and how our ability to connect deeply has deteriorated in a world dominated by distraction, paradigmatic thinking, and judgment. Drawing from his latest book *How to Know a Person*, Brooks explores emotional architecture, the danger of moral detachment, the layers of trauma and transformation, and the developmental life tasks that shape our identities.Through deeply personal stories — including his own journey through divorce, emotional avoidance, and the workaholic tendencies that nearly derailed his relationships — Brooks offers a rare and unfiltered view of what it means to grow wiser. He shares the practices of “illuminators” who make others feel seen, the humble posture of accompaniment, and how curiosity, patience, and vulnerability are the cornerstones of human flourishing. This is a conversation about becoming unmistakable by showing up as fully human.

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0:00.0

As you probably notice, this month, we're bringing you our Life of Purpose series and revisiting

0:04.6

some of our most transformative episodes. Tune in to explore expert insights and practical

0:09.4

strategies on help, performance, and community well-being, all aimed at helping you achieve

0:14.4

personal and professional fulfillment. If you sign up for the newsletter, you'll not only get

0:18.5

recaps of the key ideas in each interview, but at the end of the series, you'll receive our free Life of Purpose ebook.

0:24.7

What you have to do is go to UnmistakableCreative.com slash Life Purpose. Again, that's

0:28.9

unmistakablecreative.com slash life purpose.

0:34.4

Mia!

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Yeah?

0:36.4

Don't forget flu vaccine today.

0:38.2

Really?

0:39.1

Yeah, online consent form signed ages ago.

0:42.1

It helps stop you getting really poorly with flu

0:44.1

or passing it on to your baby brother.

0:46.4

If you have a child in reception to year 11,

0:48.8

help protect them with a flu nasal spray vaccine.

0:51.4

Your child's consent form could arrive by email, text

0:54.0

through your school app or in

0:55.2

their bag. Look out for it and complete it. Stay strong, get vaccinated. Find out more at

1:01.6

NHS.uk slash child-hyphen flu. Hello, I'm currently out of office. An article I read recently said we're more relaxed and more productive

1:15.4

after a good break. So I've gone to Barbados for a month for science. Yours, Toby.

1:28.7

Take your holiday as seriously as British Airways holidays take your holiday.

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