Hello and welcome back to Franklin Ty's twice weekly leadership podcast on leadership with Scott Miller in our sixth year 350 plus

interviews recorded where we have had the privilege for weeks and weeks on end all through the pandemic,

never skipping a week on Tuesdays, now and Fridays, we release episodes where we take Franklin

Covey's global platform and shine it not only on our own

internal authors and thought leaders that are obviously consequential in the

60 million books that we have sold across our numerous titles many of which you are adopting those solutions in your

organizations to develop leaders, but also to take this spotlight and as a good steward of our co-founder Dr Stephen Arcovey who popularized the concept of having an abundance

mentality versus a scarcity mindset, we try to lift other voices up that we think share similar values and help to

shepherd our mission, which is to inspire greatness and people and organizations everywhere.

I am delighted to have the Phenom opinion, writer, columnist, interviewee, interviewer.

You know him as David Brooks.

He is a contributor to the New York Times,

to the Atlantic.

You probably recognize his mug from his frequent appearances

on PBS News Hour.

He is a multi-best-selling author.

And today he has written what I think is his most consequential contribution

as an author.

I've told you in previous openings that I have no credibility when it comes to restaurant

recommendations or movie recommendations, but having read,

you know, 8, 10,000 books over the course of my career, this book is a book you need to own.

If you are a human, you need to buy how to know a person.

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