I am so glad you could join us. I'm your host Mo Gaudet. This podcast is nothing more than a conversation between two good friends sharing inspiring life stories and perhaps

some nuggets of wisdom along the way.

This is your invitation to slow down with us.

Welcome to slow more. I know from the calmness of my voice that it doesn't seem that I've had the career that I did.

I spent 25 years in the corporate world, you know, dealing with corporate politicians, senior

executives, backstabbers, working externally with CEOs and heads of states and politicians and I can tell you

it's tough I think everyone knows when we go to work that the big part of our burden if you want is not really the job itself.

It's all of those politics and meanness if you want the way things are between the people,

between those power seekers, between those fame seekers. I think this really is what gets most of us down and it is really

tiring. It's really draining in so many ways, but it is the reality of a lot of what's happening in our world today,

not just at work, but in society at large, as today's guest calls it in his latest book, we live in a world that has turned mean.

And his latest book explores the timeless question really but very timely question for leadership.

The book is called the art of fairness, the power of decency in a world turned mean, and basically explores the idea of maybe being a fair, decent leader is also a good way of achieving success. He talks about stories such as the story of Satya, the new CEO of Microsoft who transformed Microsoft into a powerhouse again.

After Steve Balmer greatly diminished the value of the company

through his very pushy, very hard charging and over-aggressive tactics.

He talks about the qualities that make a leader fair,

but firm, and uses many other examples to explain from politics and from business to explain that fairness

is also a possible path to success. My guest today is David Budanes, who writes about a variety of topics.

One of his very first books, The Secret House, is a very interesting investigation of all of the things that we don't really see in our everyday life.

He wrote Eocquels MC squared, which was adopted by PBS to become a documentary, Einstein's big idea, very interesting if you want to see it and he is the

Royal Society Science Book of the Year prize winner.

David got lots of positive reviews for his new book, The Art of Fairness.

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