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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

David Baddiel: The Jew Problem

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Society & Culture, Education, Comedy Interviews, Comedy, Self-improvement

4.5905 Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2024

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Are Jews a minority? Do they deserve the same social-justice protections as other identity groups? Or are they white—perhaps even the “whitest” of white privileged elites?

 

David Baddiel is a comedian and writer. He helped turn comedy into ‘the New Rock’n’Roll’ when he created the hit TV shows ‘The Mary Whitehouse Experience’ and ‘Newman & Baddiel in Pieces’. He’s appeared on the UK’s biggest comedy shows including ‘Little Britain’, ‘Skins’, ‘8 Out of 10 Cats’, and ‘QI’, and he performed to 12,500 people at the Wembley arena in the UK’s first ever stadium comedy show.

 

Now, he has turned his ferocious intellect to his Jewishness. How does the social-justice Left think about Jews? Where do Jews fit in a ‘woke’ worldview? Baddiel’s brilliant new book and TV documenatry are both called “Jews Don't Count”.

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Gahey humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. Here's a dangerous idea for you.

0:08.6

What if, when we think about Jews, our brains kind of break a little. There are a few jigsaw pieces that don't fit together.

0:19.2

There are enough cognitive dissonances that our intuitions

0:23.0

lead us Australia. Like, how do you feel when you hear the word Jew or when you hear the word

0:29.1

a Jewish person? Does that have a different valence? Do you think a victimized person, a successful

0:36.4

person, a manipulative person, a money hungry person, a successful person, a manipulative person, a money-hungry person, a virtuous person.

0:42.3

David Bedele is one of Britain's most successful stand-up comics and comedy writers,

0:49.3

and has recently embraced his position as a proud Jew and wrote a book that has completely changed the way

0:57.6

that I think about social justice, identity, and Jewishness.

1:03.2

It's rare that I read a book where several times during the reading I think, wow, my eyes

1:09.4

are literally open.

1:10.3

I just have not heard this

1:12.5

perspective, this point of view, put this way in all of the opinions that I ingest from all

1:19.4

of the rest of contemporary culture. It's a rare gift to be able to point out new ideas to people,

1:27.4

and David has that gift.

1:29.4

I want to say, as a preface to this conversation, this is not about Gaza.

1:34.7

This is not about Israel.

1:37.1

This is not about the current conflagration in the Middle East.

1:41.1

This interview was scheduled before the tragedy of October 7th. David regards his ideas as being deeply independent from and discreet from the woes of that misbegotten part of the world. He's talking about Western culture. He's talking about

2:02.1

British Jews primarily, but there's an analogue in Australia and the United States, of course.

2:07.8

So if you feel like, well, why aren't we talking more about Garzan babies or about the

2:13.1

massacre of October 7, whilst this conversation takes place after those events, I wanted to remain true

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