Dave Van Vickle Returns...with STORIES!!!
Catching Foxes
Luke and Gomer
4.7 • 778 Ratings
🗓️ 14 September 2019
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
Our buddy Jon refused to become a Patreon supporter until we got Van Vickle back on the show to talk ghosts, hauntings, and exorcism stories. BUT FIRST! Luke talks about his despair over the Church today, the failure of the bishops to do anything meaningful, and how we are basically still confused by Pope Francis. That's the first 25 minutes. Then ghost stories, kids!
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| 0:00.0 | So the church is in a horrible spot. |
| 0:03.3 | And I'm actually kind of, this is the very, I'm going to be very, very, very unbroken and very, very, very honest with you both because you are my friends. |
| 0:11.1 | This is the first time in a very, very, very long time that I've had to ask myself, can I keep being Catholic? |
| 0:18.7 | Now, I'm not saying that I'm doing that. I'm not saying that I'm going to leave. I'm not saying that I'm doing that. |
| 0:21.8 | I'm not saying that I'm going to leave. |
| 0:23.1 | I'm not saying that I want to leave. |
| 0:24.9 | But I'm just, I'm saying with everything going on in the church, here in my diocese, |
| 0:29.9 | people like, it's the first time that it's that I've kind of have that little like |
| 0:34.6 | creeping in of like, why am I doing this? |
| 0:41.1 | And I'm just curious to kind of get uh your guys's take on that because again i don't want you to think that i'm like sitting |
| 0:45.8 | saying i'm going to leave i mean it's just there's only so much a person can take i think before |
| 0:51.1 | you start to question it's it's you know um i i know comes down to trust, but there's this part of me that's just like, |
| 0:59.5 | I mean, it was, I don't know, like right before Mass over on Sunday, I got to a, not a dark place, |
| 1:04.9 | but just a really, I mean, as close to despair as I've ever gotten, despair with regards to the Catholic Church that I've never really experienced before. |
| 1:15.5 | Just wanted to share that and thought we could start on a real light note. |
| 1:19.8 | Yeah. Wow. |
| 1:21.7 | I mean, I guess I understand. |
| 1:23.4 | I definitely am in the worst state of mind towards the church that I have been in a long time. |
| 1:33.7 | I haven't like thought about like leaving because I don't feel like I could. |
| 1:37.8 | Like you said, you know, it's like there's not really an option. |
| 1:40.5 | But it's definitely like I definitely am not satisfied with the response of almost anyone in the church. |
| 1:50.5 | Like it's not getting better for me. |
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