The people of the United States of America never had a referendum on empire.

We don't want to pour money into all these different parts of the world.

And I don't agree with you that we get more bang for our buck than we otherwise would.

Yes, Iran funds, groups that are a pain in the ass to Israel.

That is certainly true.

And there's a big...

It's more than a pain in the ass dayay. Let's be fair. Yeah. It's about taking Israelis hostage, raping them, killing women, killing children, dragging them off to the dungeons and holding them there for power. That's not the same as what the IDF is doing. Would you accept that? No, I don't really think that's right. If you're talking about this conflict and you're going, put yourself in their perspective, put yourself in their perspective, the end result is that they're going through that at a much larger scale than the Israelis. My issue comes with people when they interview the Nick Fuentes of the world, and they do not give an appropriate pushback on ideas. I don't agree that if you don't push back on someone's

ideas, you're endorsing it. Okay, I understand there's going to be people who praise Hitler and people

who praise Stalin, but you can't praise both, man. Like, you've got to be good. You've got to be good

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We gave Job Centre Plus a try, and they've really helped us out. Really? Yeah. It was dead easy. We got our own employer advisor, Julie, who helped advertise our jobs, shortlisted candidates for us and letters interview at the Job Centre. We've hired some great people, and Job Centre Plus really took the hassle out of it, and there was no fee. Brilliant. That's straight on my to-do list. Find out more at business.gov.uk.org. Slash recruit. Eligibility criteria apply. Dave Smith. This has been waiting to happen for a long time. The internet wanted it to happen. You're here. Nice to meet you. Thanks for coming on. Oh, thank you guys both for having me. I agree. It's been long anticipated. I'm glad we were able to make it happen.

Yeah, and you and I individually, we've debated stuff before, and one of the things I've always really genuinely enjoyed about it is I think we come at the world from very different directions, but it's always a discussion of the issues.

Yeah. And there's not enough of that. A lot of the conversations in our space have become very ad hominem, et cetera. That's not why you're here, and that's how we're going to approach it, I think, from our angle. Speak for yourself. Yeah, Francis has a list of quotes from 2012. Well, it would be great if me and you did a good fit to bit, than me and you just did like a vicious and we could just go back and forth. I like that idea. We can try it out, try both ways. But anyway, it's nice to have you on. Before we get into it, a lot of our audience actually won't know your background or your story, who you are. They'll just know that they see you talking about certain things and whatever.

So tell us a little bit about you, first of all.

Well, I'm from here, from New York City, where we're recording this interview.

And born and raised in Brooklyn, New York, I started stand-up comedy in 2006, I think.

And then I became very interested in the Ron Paul presidential campaigns, and I got sucked down the black hole of being obsessed with all of these issues

that we all talk about all the time. And then I just been podcasting for the last 15 years or so,

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